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04-30-2013, 10:24 PM
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The name comes from the fact that it is fretted, thereby enabling one to play precise notes without having to be too careful about finger position on the fretboard.
What would you call it if it were determined by the arbiter of bass naming conventions that it could not be called a Precision Bass?
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04-30-2013, 10:26 PM
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04-30-2013, 10:28 PM
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04-30-2013, 10:28 PM
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04-30-2013, 10:29 PM
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04-30-2013, 10:41 PM
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04-30-2013, 10:53 PM
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04-30-2013, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga Is a fretless Precision Bass ... still a Precision Bass? | I guess that depends on who's playing it!  | 
05-01-2013, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga Is a fretless Precision Bass ...
... still a Precision Bass? | Well, is a piccolo bass still a bass?
(This question belongs on NPR's "A Way With Words".  ) * . . . and the answer is "yes", on both accounts . . . *
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05-01-2013, 01:35 AM
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05-01-2013, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bassie12 A "Close Enough" bass? | I think this works.
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05-01-2013, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga ... still a Precision Bass?
The name comes from the fact that it is fretted, thereby enabling one to play precise notes without having to be too careful about finger position on the fretboard.
What would you call it if it were determined by the arbiter of bass naming conventions that it could not be called a Precision Bass? | Well, that's where Fender blew it (in my opinion). They should have given the Jazz Bass the fretless option. | 
05-01-2013, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by onosson I guess that depends on who's playing it!  | +1! | 
05-01-2013, 03:00 AM
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05-01-2013, 03:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Serbia | | I've heard this issue many times, and yes, it's some dreadful irony. I actually have a fretless P so the issue arises every once and then when I play it
Another issue to tacle is how some Squiers are called PRECISIONS even though they have two jazz pickups. What does make a precision-a precision? Body shape? Pickups? Neck shape? Nut width?
Because if it's body shape and you slap a MM in the bridge position and remove the P pickup, it's still a precision, but it will sound nothing like it. If you take a jazz bass, remove pickups and shove one P in the P position, it's still a jazz bass... but sounds nothing like it. In order to figure if it's rightful to call a fretless P a precision, we'd first have to decide what DEFINES a precision, and even fender is deadly vague at that point that I think our feeble minds just can't keep up.
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05-01-2013, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by InternetAlias I've heard this issue many times, and yes, it's some dreadful irony. I actually have a fretless P so the issue arises every once and then when I play it
Another issue to tacle is how some Squiers are called PRECISIONS even though they have two jazz pickups. What does make a precision-a precision? Body shape? Pickups? Neck shape? Nut width?
Because if it's body shape and you slap a MM in the bridge position and remove the P pickup, it's still a precision, but it will sound nothing like it. If you take a jazz bass, remove pickups and shove one P in the P position, it's still a jazz bass... but sounds nothing like it. In order to figure if it's rightful to call a fretless P a precision, we'd first have to decide what DEFINES a precision, and even fender is deadly vague at that point that I think our feeble minds just can't keep up. | You can start with body shape, then pickguard shape and go from there  | 
05-01-2013, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by InternetAlias I've heard this issue many times, and yes, it's some dreadful irony. I actually have a fretless P so the issue arises every once and then when I play it
Another issue to tacle is how some Squiers are called PRECISIONS even though they have two jazz pickups. What does make a precision-a precision? Body shape? Pickups? Neck shape? Nut width?
Because if it's body shape and you slap a MM in the bridge position and remove the P pickup, it's still a precision, but it will sound nothing like it. If you take a jazz bass, remove pickups and shove one P in the P position, it's still a jazz bass... but sounds nothing like it. In order to figure if it's rightful to call a fretless P a precision, we'd first have to decide what DEFINES a precision, and even fender is deadly vague at that point that I think our feeble minds just can't keep up. | i think a "precision bass" is mainly a combination of body shape and pickup configuration, and we all know what that is. there can be some liberties taken here and there of course. Fender is allowed to be more loosey goosey about what they call a Precision because they created it and own the trademark. so we just have to deal with the fact that sometimes a Precision (capital P) isn't really a precision the way we think of it.
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05-01-2013, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by azzyrazzy You can start with body shape, then pickguard shape and go from there  | That's about right, that's what fender generally does as well, as noted in my Squier Precision example.
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05-01-2013, 03:59 AM
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Me and my fretless Antigua, we think we do all right without frets.
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05-01-2013, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga ... still a Precision Bass?
The name comes from the fact that it is fretted, thereby enabling one to play precise notes without having to be too careful about finger position on the fretboard.
What would you call it if it were determined by the arbiter of bass naming conventions that it could not be called a Precision Bass? | Personally I might call it Alfred -always liked that name...... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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