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Old 04-30-2013, 10:24 PM
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Is a fretless Precision Bass ...

... still a Precision Bass?

The name comes from the fact that it is fretted, thereby enabling one to play precise notes without having to be too careful about finger position on the fretboard.

What would you call it if it were determined by the arbiter of bass naming conventions that it could not be called a Precision Bass?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:26 PM
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A "Close Enough" bass?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:41 PM
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Funny you post this, I was just thinking the same thing yesterday while playing my fretless precision bass...
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Somebody in the "teens post your gear" thread yelled at me for mentioning that bit of irony. They were going on about something to do with colloquial. :banghead:
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Is a fretless Precision Bass ... still a Precision Bass?
I guess that depends on who's playing it!
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:32 AM
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Is a fretless Precision Bass ...
... still a Precision Bass?
Well, is a piccolo bass still a bass?

(This question belongs on NPR's "A Way With Words". )

* . . . and the answer is "yes", on both accounts . . . *

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My Tony Franklin Fretless has the word Precision on the headstock. Good enough for me
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A "Close Enough" bass?
I think this works.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:59 AM
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... still a Precision Bass?

The name comes from the fact that it is fretted, thereby enabling one to play precise notes without having to be too careful about finger position on the fretboard.

What would you call it if it were determined by the arbiter of bass naming conventions that it could not be called a Precision Bass?
Well, that's where Fender blew it (in my opinion). They should have given the Jazz Bass the fretless option.
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I've heard this issue many times, and yes, it's some dreadful irony. I actually have a fretless P so the issue arises every once and then when I play it

Another issue to tacle is how some Squiers are called PRECISIONS even though they have two jazz pickups. What does make a precision-a precision? Body shape? Pickups? Neck shape? Nut width?

Because if it's body shape and you slap a MM in the bridge position and remove the P pickup, it's still a precision, but it will sound nothing like it. If you take a jazz bass, remove pickups and shove one P in the P position, it's still a jazz bass... but sounds nothing like it. In order to figure if it's rightful to call a fretless P a precision, we'd first have to decide what DEFINES a precision, and even fender is deadly vague at that point that I think our feeble minds just can't keep up.
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I've heard this issue many times, and yes, it's some dreadful irony. I actually have a fretless P so the issue arises every once and then when I play it

Another issue to tacle is how some Squiers are called PRECISIONS even though they have two jazz pickups. What does make a precision-a precision? Body shape? Pickups? Neck shape? Nut width?

Because if it's body shape and you slap a MM in the bridge position and remove the P pickup, it's still a precision, but it will sound nothing like it. If you take a jazz bass, remove pickups and shove one P in the P position, it's still a jazz bass... but sounds nothing like it. In order to figure if it's rightful to call a fretless P a precision, we'd first have to decide what DEFINES a precision, and even fender is deadly vague at that point that I think our feeble minds just can't keep up.
You can start with body shape, then pickguard shape and go from there
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I've heard this issue many times, and yes, it's some dreadful irony. I actually have a fretless P so the issue arises every once and then when I play it

Another issue to tacle is how some Squiers are called PRECISIONS even though they have two jazz pickups. What does make a precision-a precision? Body shape? Pickups? Neck shape? Nut width?

Because if it's body shape and you slap a MM in the bridge position and remove the P pickup, it's still a precision, but it will sound nothing like it. If you take a jazz bass, remove pickups and shove one P in the P position, it's still a jazz bass... but sounds nothing like it. In order to figure if it's rightful to call a fretless P a precision, we'd first have to decide what DEFINES a precision, and even fender is deadly vague at that point that I think our feeble minds just can't keep up.
i think a "precision bass" is mainly a combination of body shape and pickup configuration, and we all know what that is. there can be some liberties taken here and there of course. Fender is allowed to be more loosey goosey about what they call a Precision because they created it and own the trademark. so we just have to deal with the fact that sometimes a Precision (capital P) isn't really a precision the way we think of it.
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You can start with body shape, then pickguard shape and go from there
That's about right, that's what fender generally does as well, as noted in my Squier Precision example.
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Me and my fretless Antigua, we think we do all right without frets.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:33 AM
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... still a Precision Bass?

The name comes from the fact that it is fretted, thereby enabling one to play precise notes without having to be too careful about finger position on the fretboard.

What would you call it if it were determined by the arbiter of bass naming conventions that it could not be called a Precision Bass?
Personally I might call it Alfred -always liked that name......
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