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Basstreble 02-04-2013 05:25 PM

Gibson SG Bass VS. Gibson Thunderbird
 
Hey guys! I'm looking to buy a new bass. I've been trying to decide between the SG Bass and Thunderbird bass. I like them both but it's hard for me to decide. I play anything from Rock, Funk, Indie, Alt, worship, and jazz. I'm not too tall and my fingers are a bit short but it doesn't affect me too much. Please give me your opinion on which one you like more, or if you don't like either of them. Thank you!

smcd 02-04-2013 05:44 PM

Kind of an apples and oranges thing going on with those 2 basses. Different pickups and scale lengths, wildly different sounds. Neither of those basses are well suited for funk or jazz, IMO.

lolmont 02-05-2013 12:06 AM

SG bass I think is good for Rock and Indie and for sure classic rock like 60s stuff.

BawanaRik 02-05-2013 12:19 AM

The t Bird is a long bass. It does have a unique growl. From the 4 Seasons to the Runaways and beyond.

IronLung1986 02-05-2013 12:22 AM

i think the thunderbird is a better all-purpose choice. they both have the neckdive issue so thankfully that's out of the discussion. the SG bass is really cool and i've always wanted one but i do feel like the t-bird is going to give you a more useful sound for modern and old-school styles.

Teacher 02-05-2013 01:00 AM

Love the SG neck but hate the overall feel. However, it's been so long since I shouldered a Thunderbird (reverse) that I don't remember. So why am I even posting? Dunno.

Rocker949 02-05-2013 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IronLung1986 (Post 13831665)
i think the thunderbird is a better all-purpose choice. they both have the neckdive issue so thankfully that's out of the discussion. the SG bass is really cool and i've always wanted one but i do feel like the t-bird is going to give you a more useful sound for modern and old-school styles.

I know the T-Bird has it, but are you really sure the SG RI has neck dive? Not all Gibsons have that. My Gibson EB-0 doesn't have it at all. I'd actually like to know this info because I was thinking seriously of getting an SG RI.

DrSpunkwater 02-05-2013 06:51 AM

The SG has neck dive, but not much. If you're looking to play a wide range of genres, and you're really committed to getting a Gibson bass, I'd probably go with a Thunderbird.

rockscott 02-05-2013 07:02 AM

Both are nice basses, i do think the Thunderbird is more versatile! The epiphone pro 4 is active, this expands the tonel range substantially over passive birds.

Webtroll 02-05-2013 07:05 AM

I love the SG shape but I find the tone to be generally woolly and the short scale tends to throw me off.

cfsporn 02-05-2013 08:36 AM

I'd vote for the Thunderbird. I have played both, and found the Thunderbird to be slightly less undefined and muddy than any EBO/3

thisSNsucks 02-05-2013 08:49 AM

I vote Thunderbird, but they are long basses!

bluewine 02-05-2013 08:54 AM

You want to stand out and with instant stage presence? Go with a Gibson Tbird.

blue

adamafurious 02-05-2013 09:16 AM

That's my SGRI in my av.
I get fond looks from the moment I open the case. Point being, I think either bass will elicit the desired response ;)

I use mine on everything from rock to ambient, psychedelic blues & pop. Last time we recorded, I used it in a blind taste test vs. a vintage P bass. Everyone preferred the SG.

Slap some tapewounds on & you're good to go!

Misterwogan 02-05-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronLung1986 (Post 13831665)
i think the thunderbird is a better all-purpose choice. they both have the neckdive issue so thankfully that's out of the discussion. the SG bass is really cool and i've always wanted one but i do feel like the t-bird is going to give you a more useful sound for modern and old-school styles.

The SG, neck-dive, does it?



As you can see, I've relocated the strap lock from the back to the top horn - this seems to solve the problem.

I owned an SG since before Christmas. It is like an pair of old comfortable slippers. At first the tonal range can appear limited, but I use a BOSS GEB-7 to shape the tone before the signal goes to the DI, this results in a huge range if tones, mainly by boosting at 4khz and cutting at 500hz.

The SG is also the best bass that I've played with a pick. It retains its thundering lows but starts to growl in the mids - wonderful tone.

The only downside to my mind, is if you are playing finger-style very close to the neck - things can get very cramped indeed.

KPJ 02-05-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Misterwogan (Post 13833236)

The SG is also the best bass that I've played with a pick. It retains its thundering lows but starts to growl in the mids - wonderful tone.

I have an Epiphone EB-3, which is different than the SG but close enough, and I must say that the difference in tone between pick-style and finger style is amazing. Much fuller with the pick. Tone change without touching a knob.

Misterwogan 02-05-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KPJ (Post 13834833)
I have an Epiphone EB-3, which is different than the SG but close enough, and I must say that the difference in tone between pick-style and finger style is amazing. Much fuller with the pick. Tone change without touching a knob.

Absolutely. Whereas with my P, J or Ray the tone hollows out with a pick (well with the Ray I boost the bass and cut treble) with the SG the tone looses none of its thickness and really thumps.

mtdmind 02-05-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thisSNsucks (Post 13832885)
I vote Thunderbird, but they are long basses!

are they 34" scale basses?

Rocker949 02-05-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtdmind (Post 13834925)
are they 34" scale basses?

Yes.

DrSpunkwater 02-05-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misterwogan (Post 13833236)
The SG, neck-dive, does it?



As you can see, I've relocated the strap lock from the back to the top horn - this seems to solve the problem.

I owned an SG since before Christmas. It is like an pair of old comfortable slippers. At first the tonal range can appear limited, but I use a BOSS GEB-7 to shape the tone before the signal goes to the DI, this results in a huge range if tones, mainly by boosting at 4khz and cutting at 500hz.

The SG is also the best bass that I've played with a pick. It retains its thundering lows but starts to growl in the mids - wonderful tone.

The only downside to my mind, is if you are playing finger-style very close to the neck - things can get very cramped indeed.

Nice solution. I thought about doing the same thing. Does the strap button stay nice and tight in the horn like that?


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