great deal on ebay (sarcasm)
 

I don't know, a USA Tobias with a NAMM show custom finish (if that is indeed what he has) plus a decent amp and cab included in the price... Could indeed be a decent buy for the right buyer.

Certainly not funny or wrong enough to merit a sarcasm post.

problem #1 his serial number is 9216, mike stop building at #2044

Problem #2 its not a custom color

problem #3 its a killer B model from gibson designed by mike but as far as i know never built one unless a prototype one which this is not

problem #4 mike left gibson in 91-92 so a 1999 namm custom, math doesn't add up

Did you notice the button that says "make an offer"? He might let it go for $1500

I applaud the breadth of your knowledge

The seller is mixed up on his date by a few years, and his asking price it a bit steep, but I don't see this as an attempt at fraud. I think he's mixed up.

He doesn't advertise it as "pre-Gibson", he clearly shows the serial number, and he provides many photos. Anyone in the market for a pre-Gibson Tobias would be able to see what this is. I think you're making a too big a deal out of this.

ad says 92 namm

Yeah, the ad says that. But people selling the more desirable Tobias guitars put "PRE-GIBSON" right in the title. Outside of the NAMM date, the seller doesn't seem to be pumping this up to be more than what it is. It doesn't read like a scam to me.

Isn't the Killer B a Gibson-era-only model?

He had pregib previously in the the title

I'm not making a big deal of it, of he put it on this forum would anyone not say anything or we just let some unsuspecting member just buy a bass being sold under false pretenses

He said he was given the info by mike tobias himself so thus make a another false statement to increase the value of his item = fraud

even used, a goliath iii is running somewhere in the range of $500 (in my neck of the woods anyway) and figure another $500 for the SM500, it seems like a good deal overall. and he does caveat a "best offer".

Infact as somebody already said, other than $. 2,500.00 as asked, $. 1,500.00 is fair
 

Head n'cab (I previously owned SWR, really quality stuff there)
can easily go for nearly $. 1,000.00
then you sum $. 500.00 more for bass (whatever Tobias it is) and there you're at:smug:

Cheers,
Wallace

$1500 is fair

I think that price is reasonable. The Goliath and SM-500 would be close to a grand by themselves. I had that combo & they were killer. I was stupid to trade mine. :(

its a better deal than the $8,000 for a 1959 Les Paul hardshell case...


yes, just the case.

yikes