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hsech 03-01-2013 08:02 PM

Had Blues Trio Practice Today.......
 
I had practice with the blues trio today and I took my Gibson SG Bass. Both the guitarist and the drummer could tell right away that something didn't sound right. My Precision was missing. A Precision and Texas blues just go together.

Lublin 03-01-2013 08:41 PM

A Precision and just about everything go together.

dhsierra1 03-01-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hsech (Post 13962436)
I had practice with the blues trio today and I took my Gibson SG Bass. Both the guitarist and the drummer could tell right away that something didn't sound right. My Precision was missing. A Precision and Texas blues just go together.

Well, then there was SRV with Tommy Shannon rockin' a J......

awilkie84 03-01-2013 09:48 PM

Your problem was the mudbucker. They're terrible pickups. :( IMO

A P or J, or just about ANY other bass out there would have worked better.

dedpool1052 03-02-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by awilkie84 (Post 13962745)
Your problem was the mudbucker.

am i the only one who finds the term "mudbucker" couterintuitive?
humbucker = no hum
mudbucker = no mud

bassbenj 03-02-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lublin (Post 13962558)
A Precision and just about everything go together.

Lets face it. Everybody here knows that when you say "bass guitar" you can ONLY mean a Fender "P" or a "J". Nothing else is a bass guitar! The rest are all posers...especially anything with Gibson on it...

:hiding:

azzyrazzy 03-02-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hsech (Post 13962436)
I had practice with the blues trio today and I took my Gibson SG Bass. Both the guitarist and the drummer could tell right away that something didn't sound right. My Precision was missing. A Precision and Texas blues just go together.

They also probably noticed that it sounded different. For some, different is bad when you are used to a great sound.

georgestrings 03-02-2013 05:23 AM

For me, a P Bass works the best in a one guitar band - I get better results in a 2 guitar band with a Jazz, EBMM, T-bird, or Spector/Warwick... IMO, a P Bass sits in a one guitar mix just right, whereas I prefer something with a little more cutting ability with more than 1 guitar...


- georgestrings

aquateen 03-02-2013 05:23 AM

try adjusting the settings on your amp to dial in the Gibson. I use several different Gibsons for blues without any problems getting it to sound right. and let's face it, there are many basses that don't say Fender on the headstock that sound great, including Gibsons.

Stinsok 03-02-2013 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dhsierra1 (Post 13962591)
Well, then there was SRV with Tommy Shannon rockin' a J......

Pretty sure I saw him playing a Carvin on Austin City Limits a long time ago!

bassgod0dmw 03-02-2013 05:53 AM

I had an SG bass for like a week. It was a really cool bass, but once I played it with my band I knew it wasn't going to work out. "Hey...can you turn up? I can't hear the bass..." in between every song until I switched to my J.

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Originally Posted by awilkie84 (Post 13962745)
Your problem was the mudbucker. They're terrible pickups. :( IMO

Just IMO too, but I agree.

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Originally Posted by dedpool1052 (Post 13963049)
am i the only one who finds the term "mudbucker" couterintuitive?
humbucker = no hum
mudbucker = no mud

:confused:

I see where you're going, but they're definitely muddy to my ears. Certain aftermarket models aren't, but the standard Gibson is.

dhsierra1 03-02-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinsok (Post 13963352)
Pretty sure I saw him playing a Carvin on Austin City Limits a long time ago!

he's most often associated with a beat up early 60s J. No doubt he played other instruments from time to time, but that's his signature bass.

dedpool1052 03-02-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw (Post 13963396)
:confused:

I see where you're going, but they're definitely muddy to my ears. Certain aftermarket models aren't, but the standard Gibson is.

i'm not saying the stock gibson pickups are not muddy, i'm just sayin the mudbucker term used to desribe them sounds odd to me. it would be better used to describe aftermarket eb style pickups that aren't muddy, hence "mudbucker", no more mud. thats kinda what i meant by the mudbucker = no mud. that's just my thoughts on it.

Mojo-Man 03-02-2013 04:33 PM

:cool:

I love both P and J basses.
But for a Trio, I prefer the P-Bass. It sits better in the mix.
More thump.

Zootsuitbass 03-02-2013 05:39 PM

Amen my favorite part about playing trio.

BIG FAT TONE,,,works. So much sonic space:hiding:

Basshappi 03-02-2013 05:58 PM

You cannot EQ the SG the same way as a Fender and expect good results.
That said, the SG is going to naturally be low mid focused but it can be made to sound very good in it's own right. Don't give up.

mattbass6945 03-02-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dhsierra1 (Post 13965666)
he's most often associated with a beat up early 60s J. No doubt he played other instruments from time to time, but that's his signature bass.

oh yeah! the '64 olypic white jazz. nice.:bassist:

http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66312

chadds 03-02-2013 07:35 PM

I don't know what amp you use, what strings, how loud or how well you play but there was a blues trio called "Cream" that well......

They were just an average garage band. Somewhere in all that music was a Gibson EB3.

Your tone could have been fuller but not as punchy. I know it was different. It is possible to get more than mud from that bass. I did quite well with the single pickup EBO back in those days.

hsech 03-02-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dhsierra1 (Post 13962591)
Well, then there was SRV with Tommy Shannon rockin' a J......

I have a Jazz also, but the other two guys seem to like the Precision Better.

hsech 03-02-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chadds (Post 13966438)
I don't know what amp you use, what strings, how loud or how well you play but there was a blues trio called "Cream" that well......

They were just an average garage band. Somewhere in all that music was a Gibson EB3.

Your tone could have been fuller but not as punchy. I know it was different. It is possible to get more than mud from that bass. I did quite well with the single pickup EBO back in those days.

Cream was a rock band and yes a EB3 was used. I have a Gibson SG Bass with the same pickups as the EB3. With the blues we are doing it requires a lot of walks and clean articulation at times. My Gibson just muddies up too much without messing with the amps EQ from song to song. I guess that's the beauty of having both two Fenders and a Gibson. My Carvin LB70 Active/Passive is a little too clean. I'm using a Carvin BX500 head and a Carvin 4x10 cab or a Carvin B2000 head and 2 Carvin 4x10 cabs depending on the venue. I play flats on all my basses. I certaily haven't given up on my Gibson. It sounds good for a lot of classic rock I do in another band. I like the feel of the neck on the Precision and the only thing I really have to tweak when playing it is the tone control on the bass.


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