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veenife 12-24-2012 03:44 PM

Hiss like a untuned radio
 
Hi,
my bass is making a weird hiss while i play...

i`ve checked a lot in the net about that and i CAN guaranty that this hiss is NOT: a shielding problem; ground; or either an amp problem...

i`ve got weird noises on other instruments before... but this one its totally different....

i`ve tried different cables and basses...but this hiss just happens with this one bass... its a fender precisiion bass...

its like a soft hiss... similar to the sound when a radio station its not 100% tuned... or a noise like when a person blows air into a mic... or like a bag of crisps... very soft... but loud enough to ruin a recording...

and the hiss is not steady... it comes and goes.... happens more often when playing higher tones....

i`m lost on this one... i cant figure out what could be causing this hiss....

thedudebrah 12-24-2012 03:45 PM

Bad pickups maybe?

veenife 12-24-2012 03:55 PM

it could be... but i have this bass gonna be 3 years now... never had that problem.... what could cause the pick ups to be suddenly defected???

how can i know if its really the pick ups or not???

DiabolusInMusic 12-24-2012 04:04 PM

I know you said it isn't a shielding option, but bear with me.

Turn your amp way up and crank your gain, be careful not to actually play anything at this ridiculous volume. Take your hands off the bass. Does it hum?

If it stops humming when you touch any metal/strings/bridge, you have a shielding issue. If the hum gets louder when you touch and metal/strings/bridge you have a grounding issue.

It could very well be bad pickups. If it is active, change your batteries.

veenife 12-24-2012 04:38 PM

yeah, but like i said ... this isn't a shielding or ground problem....

actually this bass does has indeed a shielding problem!!!!
and it goes away when i touch the strings..... BUT

the hiss which im trying to fix, its a complete different noise than the shielding noise... its just like a subtle SANDY noise ... its comes and goes while picking....

wvbass 12-24-2012 04:45 PM

Are you sure it is a bass problem? Not an amp problem? Or a cable problem?

Kryptos 12-24-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veenife (Post 13621834)
... its comes and goes while picking....

Are you in a room with something that is putting out an acyclic magnetic or electronic field (mobile, fan, wi-fi, motor) or is your amp plugged into a circuit that one of the previously mentioned items is drawing against?

veenife 12-24-2012 04:52 PM

i tried that already... i tried with 3 different cables.. and 2 other basses on the same amp...... but this hiss just happens with this one bass that im talking about....


tomorrow i will record it... and then i will post a link here so you can have a better idea of what im talking about...

Tvrtko 12-24-2012 05:15 PM

Try to replace capacitor. And check all soldering points.

1958Bassman 12-24-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veenife (Post 13621690)
Hi,
my bass is making a weird hiss while i play...

i`ve checked a lot in the net about that and i CAN guaranty that this hiss is NOT: a shielding problem; ground; or either an amp problem...

i`ve got weird noises on other instruments before... but this one its totally different....

i`ve tried different cables and basses...but this hiss just happens with this one bass... its a fender precisiion bass...

its like a soft hiss... similar to the sound when a radio station its not 100% tuned... or a noise like when a person blows air into a mic... or like a bag of crisps... very soft... but loud enough to ruin a recording...

and the hiss is not steady... it comes and goes.... happens more often when playing higher tones....

i`m lost on this one... i cant figure out what could be causing this hiss....

If your bass is passive and doesn't have a preamp, that hiss isn't coming from there. Passive electronics don't hiss. That's from noisy resistors and gain stages that are set/designed improperly. Caps, cables and shielding don't affect hiss, either.

What amp and effects are you using? Post a photo of the control settings when you hear the hiss- include all devices in the photos. It's cumulative, so don't think that leaving out details about one device or control doesn't matter.

wvbass 12-24-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veenife
i tried that already... i tried with 3 different cables.. and 2 other basses on the same amp...... but this hiss just happens with this one bass that im talking about....

tomorrow i will record it... and then i will post a link here so you can have a better idea of what im talking about...

So you have only tried one amp? Hmm...

ddnidd1 12-24-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1958Bassman (Post 13621957)
If your bass is passive and doesn't have a preamp, that hiss isn't coming from there. Passive electronics don't hiss. That's from noisy resistors and gain stages that are set/designed improperly. Caps, cables and shielding don't affect hiss, either.

+1

eddododo 12-24-2012 07:27 PM

Have you tried another amp?
Depending on what has been lost in translation, it sounds like it could be the speaker/tweeter or the amp itself

1958Bassman 12-24-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddododo (Post 13622237)
Have you tried another amp?
Depending on what has been lost in translation, it sounds like it could be the speaker/tweeter or the amp itself

Tweeters don't cause hiss or any other noise.

bjabass 12-24-2012 08:24 PM

Tried another cable? Playing under a florescent lamp?

Immigrant 12-24-2012 09:15 PM

What kind of bass?

It sounds like preamp hiss to me. I have two Audere preamps, one hisses slightly when I crank the treble, the other is noiseless.

bassbenj 12-25-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veenife (Post 13621690)
Hi,
my bass is making a weird hiss while i play...

i`ve checked a lot in the net about that and i CAN guaranty that this hiss is NOT: a shielding problem; ground; or either an amp problem...

i`ve got weird noises on other instruments before... but this one its totally different....

i`ve tried different cables and basses...but this hiss just happens with this one bass... its a fender precisiion bass...

its like a soft hiss... similar to the sound when a radio station its not 100% tuned... or a noise like when a person blows air into a mic... or like a bag of crisps... very soft... but loud enough to ruin a recording...

and the hiss is not steady... it comes and goes.... happens more often when playing higher tones....

i`m lost on this one... i cant figure out what could be causing this hiss....

Great description of the noise but not so much of the bass! It must be an active bass because passive basses don't hiss (usually). Hiss comes from active electronics. Usually when preamps develop hiss it comes and doesn't leave. I have seen weak batteries cause hiss (and other funny noises) try that one. Try to isolate the hiss location. Turn the treble (tone) down. Does the hiss go away? Yes, means the hiss is before the tone control (pickups etc), no means it's after (amp, cords etc.).


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