How come we all don't play Carvin instruments & amps/cabs? - Page 22

Jarrett · #**421** 01-07-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

Enlighten me. What was the shot, that IMO they haven't equaled Fenders as far as J basses? Because if you consider that a "shot"...Seriously?

Do I really need to retype the paragraph? It was pretty clearly written I thought.

**cfsporn** · #**422** 01-07-2013, 01:03 PM

I would love to play a Carvin and possibly own one, it is just that I want more than 10 days to decide whether I want to keep a bass that will loose 50% of its value if I try to resell it.

**cfsporn** · #**423** 01-07-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by superdick2112

How come we all don't play Carvin instruments & amps/cabs?

Because they don't offer basses with a hand-carved arched body...

Or EMG pickups....

Or pau ferro fret boards....

Or hand made Haz Labs preamps....

Or 2-lb. solid brass bridges with locking saddles....

Or most importantly, the feel & tone I'm looking for.

If only I could own a bass with all of these features..

Oh wait - I do!

The Spector bridge weighs 2 pounds? That means my all maple NS-JH5 weighs only 7 lbs!

Raymeous · #**424** 01-07-2013, 01:05 PM

Why don't we all play Carvin?

Well
1) People love them - like me
2) People hate them - not like me

As far as instruments go, they are VERY consistant. The problem with that is if you don't like the feel of one model, chances are you won't like any other version of that particular model. I went to our local "Bass Botique" and after spending some time with Zon's, Dingwalls, Sadowskies, Bergantinos and the rest, I left happy knowing that for me my Carvin bass and amp were just as good as the botique gear. I'm not saying the other stuff is crap by comparison, I'm just saying that the Carvin CAN compete with that market.

As much as I do love my Carvin stuff I still find time to play with my other toys as well. It's all about having options and I'm thankful that we all have those options available to us. Just remember some people still think that Fender and Gibson, Ampeg and Marshall, are the only things worth looking at. The rest of us know better.

To each their own and just be happy that you found Carvin and like their products. Just enjoy the little smile that all Carvinites share with being in the know of a great little secret: Carvin

Jarrett · #**425** 01-07-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cfsporn

I would love to play a Carvin and possibly own one, it is just that I want more than 10 days to decide whether I want to keep a bass that will loose 50% of its value if I try to resell it.

In the course of this thread we saw a $1050 new SB series bass sell used for $875 here on TalkBass. That's much better than 50%. Also, how many days at home do you get with other brands to try them out?

fisticuffs · #**426** 01-07-2013, 01:08 PM

If they sold them through dealers people would like them more. As is outside of Southern CA you can't walk into a store and play one unless they happen to have one used (not likely). Fine instrument but if we are ALL going to play them we would probably ALL have to have better access to them.

I feel the same way about G&L. Why don't we all play those? I love mine clearly everyone else should as well. Duh.

Brad Johnson · #**427** 01-07-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrett

Do I really need to retype the paragraph? It was pretty clearly written I thought.

Do I really need to suggest it be read in the context of the thread? I though it was pretty clearly written too and yet here we are.

Besides, the OP asked a pretty clear question: How come we all don't play Carvin instruments & amps? Not why do people who like Carvins use them. As someone who actually fits the demo he addressed, I'm answering his question.

Are you?

cybersnyder · #**428** 01-07-2013, 01:10 PM

The biggest problem with Carvin is that you have to pay in full and wait six weeks to try the instrument. Then if I don't like it, I lose return shipping costs. That's just inherent to their business model. Meanwhile, I can try out $20k of instruments in 30 minutes at Guitar Center for free.

Brad Johnson · #**429** 01-07-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cfsporn

I would love to play a Carvin and possibly own one, it is just that I want more than 10 days to decide whether I want to keep a bass that will loose 50% of its value if I try to resell it.

You'll get the usual pushback on this but as someone who's seen SB5000s that priced out at over $1400 resell for around half, yes that is a possibility.

Resale value has been a Carvin issue for a long time.

Jarrett · #**430** 01-07-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

I though it was pretty clearly written too and yet here we are.

Yes, clearly written and yet so wrong at the same time, lol

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

Besides, the OP asked a pretty clear question

The OP realized the original question was poorly worded and changed his stance. We've moved past it, can you?

Jarrett · #**431** 01-07-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cybersnyder

The biggest problem with Carvin is that you have to pay in full and wait six weeks to try the instrument. Then if I don't like it, I lose return shipping costs. That's just inherent to their business model. Meanwhile, I can try out $20k of instruments in 30 minutes at Guitar Center for free.

Well, not full amount up front, just 20% down. Then remainder prior to shipping. But yes, that's a great point and as many have pointed out, a good reason that Carvin is where it is in terms of user base. Unless you live near one of their stores that is.

Brad Johnson · #**432** 01-07-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrett

Yes, clearly written and yet so wrong at the same time, lol

I can't read it for you. So we're done.

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The OP realized the original question was poorly worded and changed his stance. We've moved past it, can you?

With proponents like you and the OP I can't imagine why more folks aren't drawn to them. Such fervor must be based on some thing.

Jarrett · #**433** 01-07-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

we're done.

Thanks for stopping by.

This is one good looking Spector by the way. Very nice.

ggvicviper · #**434** 01-07-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson

With proponents like you and the OP I can't imagine why more folks aren't drawn to them. Such fervor must be based on some thing.

This happy face does not lie:

That's him playing his SB5000. Wouldn't you like a smile that big when playing YOUR bass?

PilbaraBass · #**435** 01-07-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrett

Hopefully this helps some people. Carvins of the 70's, 80's, 90's do not equal the Carvins of 2013.

I have 2-pieces of 90's Carvin gear... A RC210T combo, and an AC40 bass...
Fantastic gear! Both still sound and play amazingly well.

Jarrett · #**436** 01-07-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ggvicviper

This happy face does not lie:

That's him playing his SB5000. Wouldn't you like a smile that big when playing YOUR bass?

That's actually a Fender...

ggvicviper · #**437** 01-07-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrett

That's actually a Fender...

Really? The upper horn looks "pulled back" like on the SB5000.

Jarrett · #**438** 01-07-2013, 01:28 PM

Nah, its a SB5000. I was just kidding. It would have been funny though if it was

Brad Johnson · #**439** 01-07-2013, 01:34 PM

I'll still participate in the thread, I'm done with trying to have a real conversation with you. You can respect that or continue to clown... it's up to you.

Jarrett · #**440** 01-07-2013, 01:40 PM

That is good with me. I'm sure I will continue to make humorous posts, that's just my style. I don't take discussion on Internet forums too seriously, but I do like to clear up misinformation when its posted.