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cchorney 03-22-2013 10:10 AM

How do you figure out selling price for older basses?
 
So I am considering selling a couple of my basses:

Guild SB-202, Candy apple red w/ white pg
Washburn Force 8 Chicago. BBR
Fender MIM Jazz fretless with painted lines, sunburst

The Fender I can see similar used prices online because they are relatively common in the used market and still being sold new ($600), so used around $400.

But the other ones I have no idea how to price them. They are in very good condition, but I don't know if there is a collector's market. Neither are on eBay or currently up for sale at Guitar Center's used section.

I saw this http://oliviasvintageguitars.com/bass/guitars/2073/ and either I am holding a valuable bass or this site is waiting for a sucker. I can't tell.

Suggestions?

Caca de Kick 03-22-2013 11:38 AM

Oooooh! I used to have a CAR red SB202. Selling that was the biggest mistake I ever made.
Private sales, usually best to go by completed ebay listings. Dealers pricing is typically way up in the stratosphere since they can afford to sit on products for very long periods of time.

My CAR 82 sold on ebay for 750.

here the completed listing page. http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_from...mplete=1&rt=nc

cchorney 03-24-2013 08:06 PM

Thanks Caca de Kick, I like the sound of these basses, and the Guild was my first new bass, but they aren't getting any playing time so they are taking up space.

I think I will put the Guild up on eBay, the Fretless on CL for market price, and the Washburn may go to an area musician who suggested he might be willing to pay $400 for it.

If any of that sounds like I'm throwing away money someone please talk me down from that ledge - I'm flying blind here!

Nephilymbass 03-24-2013 09:44 PM

eBay is a good way to go because they don't charge you if it doesn't sell. I've relisted some gear for months bringing down the starting price gradually until I sold it. On eBay I would stay away from reserves and shipping costs. Start your price to include what you want for shipping and don't charge separately for shipping. You'll get a lot more views if it shows on eBay as no reserve and free shipping.

Honestly it would probably be harder than you think to get 400 out of the Mim jazz these days. A lot people buy them and decide that fretless isn't for them. So there's a bunch for sale used. You also have to remember that Mim jazz prices new jumped up a lot in the last couple years. So paying 400 for a fretless that might have been 499 new the year before is pushing it.

Unfortunately with the economy being the way it is, its a buyers market not a sellers market. I recently sold an American ampeg 810e with a roadcase for $600. I had $1600 invested in it. But I had it for a decade so I figured I got my money's worth. Even just a few years back I sold several rare basses for example;a custom Ernie ball and an original warwick FNA that I basically got all my money back on because the warwick was discontinued and the Ernie ball was a custom and some people really like custom shop basses from name brand companies and dont want to wait 6-12 months to have one built. But the last year or two its gotten much more difficult to sell gear for a decent price. Which is a big part of why a lot of instrument and amp builders are hurting. Because peoe aren't flipping gear to buy new stuff like they used to.

RandyMolson 03-24-2013 10:39 PM

Buy a Vintage Guitar Magazine Price Guide! It's like a blue book for basses.

I also suggest you try selling via TB classified ads before eBay.

bassbully 03-25-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyMolson (Post 14083534)
Buy a Vintage Guitar Magazine Price Guide! It's like a blue book for basses.

I also suggest you try selling via TB classified ads before eBay.

I get that magazine monthy and it is well done but the prices IMO on vintage gear is way high and aimed at dealers selling prices. Most are to high on there and not where market is at. there are 78-79 Fender on there going for $2200-2500.00..yea in what world?

Root 5 03-25-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyMolson (Post 14083534)
Buy a Vintage Guitar Magazine Price Guide! It's like a blue book for basses.

+ 1!! Get the 2013 version.

Be aware though, that not every instrument is listed; most are.

MaddAnthony_59 03-25-2013 11:01 AM

Don't sell them, just buy More!

jim777 03-25-2013 03:16 PM

At the moment it appears everything is selling pretty low, really.

cchorney 03-25-2013 03:40 PM

any answers are good answers, so than you all. Can someone who already has the book (or has recently bought one) tell me if asking $400 for the Washburn Force-8 Chicago BBR is too low?

smcd 03-25-2013 04:01 PM

The Vintage Guitar Price Guide is useless. I remember in the olde days I'd go to a guitar shop/show and when I found a guitar I liked that I thought was overpriced, I'd mention to the dealer "But the VG Price Guide says this should be lower", to which the response would be "We don't use that. If you can find one of those at that price, go buy it".

Ebay is the only solid bellweather for used gear pricing. It's the first place a shop will go to find current pricing before making you an offer on gear you're trading in or selling. I'd like to say TB is good too, but half the time, the seller erases the price once he sells the bass - which is really annoying.

smcd 03-25-2013 04:12 PM

Force 8 bass - $210

Force 4: $120


Force 8 (really nice one): less than $350

Two Force 8's: $200 each


Asking $400 may be a bit optimistic. If you're not in a rush to sell, then put it up for $400 and see what happens. But if you want to unload it in under a week, you may have to set your sights lower.

RandyMolson 03-25-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassbully (Post 14084349)
I get that magazine monthy and it is well done but the prices IMO on vintage gear is way high and aimed at dealers selling prices. Most are to high on there and not where market is at. there are 78-79 Fender on there going for $2200-2500.00..yea in what world?

My guide is about 10-years old and I find it pretty close to current market pricing. ;)

cchorney 03-25-2013 05:03 PM

Wow... well I am declaring mine then to be an extra super good condition one... and it comes with a hard case... and the buyer can always try to negotiate from my $400 starting point. :-)

cchorney 04-12-2013 10:42 AM

Just as a follow up, sold the 94/95 fender jazz mim fretless sunburst on CL. Local sale. Asked $350, got $325. Threw in the Fender soft case.


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