How much would a neck change affect the value of a bass?
I am about to put up for sale an Ibanez Roadstar II RS1300 1985. Its a nice enough bass, wood finish, gold hardware, super 58 pickups, everything original EXCEPT the neck. I do not know what neck was used, but the original neck had 22 frets and this one has 24. Whats more, because the neck was changed, while the truss rod plate, tuning keys and neck plate all are original and say Ibanez, the headstock while looking almost identical to the original one does NOT say Ibanez anymore (where the brand would be a little plate was screwed on that advertises what i believe to be some guitar pedal brand i never heard of, this plate can of course easily be removed leaving the headstock plain, i suppose someone could then paint in ibanez or even put an ibanez plate or sticker on...)
After some research, I am pretty sure this bass would be worth about 350$ normally if unmodified (if someone knows more than me about this bass and thinks its worth less...or more... let me know). Do you think selling it for 250$ is fair? Or do you think the neck change would alter its value even more negatively? I dont know much about these things.
It definitely plays nice and is obviously a decent quality neck. And has 2 more frets than the originaol...
Just googled your model, and only got back guitars. I'm pretty sure nearly all the Roadster and Roadstar basses all had 24 fret necks. I don't even think it's possible to put different length necks with different fret numbers on the same bass.. it would mess up the scale.
Can you post a pic? I'm guessing it's all original. I have 2 80s roadsters.. I like the roadster and roadstar basses.
The 80s Ibanez basses were really good! I still cannot understand how can they be so cheap compared to the Fender basses from the same era. The Ibby's quality was much better. :)
Shhhhhhhhh! That's a secret... I'm trying to find an old musician 8 string bass to replace my dean. Found one for $800 hope I can find one I can afford.
I found the fret number info on this:
I went through all the specifications of the model i had including the serial on the neck plate (which only told me the year it was made) until the RS1300 seemed to be the only one that made sense and it is listed here as having 22 frets (as are a bunch of other roadstars). Though i went and assumed that by Natural Transparent color they meant wood because in the color codes here:
That is the only thing that sounded close.... Of course i wasnt a 100% sure.
But now... I called my brother tonight. See, this bass was inherited from my grandad (who really just played guitar and probably barely ever touched that bass) and my brother claimed that my grandad claimed this was a Cort!? (My grandfather did not modify it, he bought it as is) What's more, when he passed, my mom brought pictures of the instruments to a music shop to assess the value (so her and my uncle could split the stuff equally) and THEY also told her this was a Cort. At this point i'm confused. Is this a Cort body with an Ibanez neck then? But why wouldn't the headstock say Ibanez? It in no way looks like the head was repainted or the name sanded off. Now i realise ALL the parts otherwise that DO claim to be Ibanez (or roadstar) are on the neck and head.... I don't even know anymore. For all i know it's a cort body, ibanez plates and tuning keys and some unknown neck.....Frankenbass...
Maybe one of you guys can tell me.... here's pics, bad quality because i only had my ipod to take pics with and i live in a semi-basement so the lighting is poor, also, yes, some pics are upside down, i didnt realise until they were uploaded, sorry:
Why sell it?
I'm pretty sure selling or requesting the value to sell is against the forum rules unless you're a supporting member here. Your questions seem close to that.
Well i wasnt putting it up for sale here nor intended to. I'm gonna be going through kijiji likely because i want to sell it locally as i don't want to bother with the whole shipping thing. As for requesting the value, i didnt know that was against the rules and apologize then.
I mean to be fair i wasn't asking someone to give me an exact value on that (though i did mention that at some point) but rather wanted to know how much a neck change would impact the value of an instrument. Now anyway this thread has turned into identifying what bass i have :-p. So everyone, don't tell me the value then, just tell me what this is........ (are we cool mods?)
As for the question of why i'm selling it. First, because i don't care for its sound. Nothing wrong with it, just not the kind that i usually go for in a bass, it would be more suited, it seems to me, to someone a little more funky, it kinda demands to be slapped... at least that's what i end up doing almost in spite of myself everytime i pick it up. And second, I don't like it aesthetically. I have a huge aversion for wood finish colors and the body shape is not to my liking at all either. I intend to set aside the money so it can go towards buying a bass i really want.
Cool. That is the Roadstar Body. It was pretty much the roadster body shape but the horns are not as rounded. But the body shape was almost identical.
I've never seen that model before. Looks great.
Something to keep in mind: other than their Custom Shops (like the current one in LA), Ibanez has never had a factory of its own. They have always paid other guitar factories to make their instruments for them. They have definitely had Cort (and Samick and World) make instruments for them in Korea, but those 3 are Korean companies and never made basses in Japan to the best of my knowledge, or made Ibby's in the 80's. This could have been a run from Fuji-Gen Gakki for another manufacturer (this is a Fuji-Gen made bass), but honestly I seriously doubt it. If that plate is original, and it looks it, this was made in May of '85 and the bass is an Ibanez. It could have been a Japanese store limited run, like the ones they currently do for Ikebe and Ishibashi, but that's a guess. It looks like a sanded and cleared '85 RD850/960 to me.
Wow...yep. just looked at RB 960, this is exactly what this is! The shape, the binding, the pikcups, the gold hardware, the four knobs, everything. Thank you. This model was not listed on the collectors site i linked which is why i couldn't identify it (all i knew for sure is this was '85 model because of the serial). Was this model not available in north america or something?
And you know, i never considered that someone could have had the thing repainted too, but now its obvious it was, especially considering i couldn't find a wood finish one on google AND the shape of the headstock is the exact same so it explains why the Ibanez is gone from the head, because it just got sanded off. This is good news because this means the neck is original too. So now it's...how does a repaint job affect the value negatively. :-p Loads of bassists like a wood finish though (I'm among the few that doesn't) so i think this might not be such a bad thing in the end. Thanks all for the help. I am obviously but a noob at these things.
the problem is the headstock... Nobody would be interested in a "X" bass that dont say "X" at first glance...
It's probably a very nice playing instrument that , once it gets into the right hands, someone will really appreciate and be willing to pay you a fair price for it.
THAT'S its core value, the fact that it's a solid good sounding, good playing instrument.
But it doesn't have any enhancing "collectability" value (either plus or minus) past that. Most basses don't.
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