I call *FAKE!*

[Joe Nerve]

At $200 evein if it is a fake, which I wouldn't know anyhow, he's not ripping anybody off. Except maybe fender somehow that I'm sure they're not going to loose sleep over.

[Munjibunga]

He's got an ad up for a bunch of "Stratocasters." He has "personnally [sic] customed" them. Presumably that includes custom decals, no?

Originally Posted by Tim

Still have some of my collection left that I need to get rid of...Not one alike I personnally customed the guitars to my liking and hopefully someone elses too. I became extremely ill and just need the money now so I need to part from them which makes me sad but you got to do what you got to do....

[mongo2]

That's one whack-job tuner arrangement.

[klejst]

The saddest thing is most times someone ends up buying something like this without knowing...

[C.Linton]

Which is why I don't like the idea of new players buying used. There are too many scammers like this, and a new player just won't know eonough to even suspect it's a fake.

[bill reed]

Originally Posted by C.Linton

Which is why I don't like the idea of new players buying used. There are too many scammers like this, and a new player just won't know eonough to even suspect it's a fake.

I think you make a really good point about new player buying second hand.
there are now so many good low priced starter basses around that are great basses,
Squire. Epiphone, Yamaha and Ibanez.

[Rockin Mike]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

At $200 evein if it is a fake, which I wouldn't know anyhow, he's not ripping anybody off. Except maybe fender somehow that I'm sure they're not going to loose sleep over.

He's ripping the buyer off by misrepresenting. Buyer may think they got an awesome deal but they didn't, buyer may be looking for a real Fender but they didn't get one, seller may get an unjustified advantage selling the bass quickly because it fraudulently looks like a good deal.

[GregC]

Originally Posted by Rockin Mike

He's ripping the buyer off by misrepresenting. Buyer may think they got an awesome deal but they didn't, buyer may be looking for a real Fender but they didn't, seller may get an unjustified advantage selling the bass quickly because it fraudulently looks like a good deal.

And on top of that, if it is in fact an Affinity, $200 used is indeed a ripoff.

[TDSLaBassiste]

Definitely fake, but I love the black and yellow look, it's bringing out the Pittsburgh in me.

[awilkie84]

Originally Posted by meatwad

everything. wrong decal on the wrong bass, in the wrong place.

I present to you, the American Special Precision Bass Headstock!




Other than the decals on the back missing, the decal on the front, and the tuners used are almost correct.
There may have also been a MIM that used that logo at some point, too.

It probably is a Squier, though.

[Caca de Kick]

Originally Posted by Rockin Mike

Specifics? My untrained eye only sees a decal that says "Fender Precision Bass" on a Fender-shaped headstock attached to a P-bass shaped body with a split pickup.

Most Fender models, and especially the overseas budget models don't use decals. They use silk screening for the headstock logos. Only the US Reissue and Custom Shop reissues use the old skool style waterslide decals. So it becoms apperent when somone takes a cheapie bass and applies a waterslide decal to it, you can see the hue of the decal film, aside from the vintage US style lettering on a bass that never would of had it.

[Rockin Mike]

I see in the authentic picture the lower part of the "F" is right in the corner of the wood.
It was a lot further forward in the fake.

[robbotbass]

WOW everything on this bass looks Chinsy. just take one look at the machine heads and I want to cry that someone could try to pass this as a Fender!

[1SHOT1HIT]

Originally Posted by Turock

Of course it's real. If you had read any of the "decal" threads, you would know that if a person puts on a Fender decal, he will never sell it; and if somehow he does sell, he will always disclose to the buyer that it is not really a Fender.

So we can assume that this guy either is not one of the TB members who say they would never do it, and or would be upfront about it.

Or the guy isn't aware of what he's selling, which I doubt. Those have to be the strangest looking tuner placements I've ever seen.
But then again he's not asking Fender P prices for it either, so maybe he does know???

Either way, it's definitely not fair to lump some crook into a ball with all other people who do it.
I've seen quite a few ads where someone has a "fake" for sale and clearly states it in the ad as what it is with a replica decal added for aesthetics.

And for the record, Fender could care less who's adding decals to *their* personal property.
People can do what they want to their own stuff.
They own it, not Fender.
Obviously it'd be different if it was some company building basses by the handful and passing them off as Fender basses.

[meatwad]

Originally Posted by awilkie84

I present to you, the American Special Precision Bass Headstock!

Other than the decals on the back missing, the decal on the front, and the tuners used are almost correct.
There may have also been a MIM that used that logo at some point, too.

It probably is a Squier, though.

Wow, to the two guys who can't understand my point, please stop arguing with my earlier post and, by all means, hurry up and BUY THIS BASS!!! You are truly an amazing internet duo with the ability of seeing through my ignorance with your trusty X-Ray BS Glasses, and so my attempts of misinformation have been foiled. Meddling kids!

Edit - looking back, there is only one person I should be addressing.

[Turock]

Originally Posted by 1SHOT1HIT

So we can assume that this guy either is not one of the TB members who say they would never do it, and or would be upfront about it.

I think it would be more accurate to assume that this is how people get ripped off.

Originally Posted by 1SHOT1HIT

And for the record, Fender could care less who's adding decals to *their* personal property.

It appears that you are saying that Fender does care.

Originally Posted by 1SHOT1HIT

People can do what they want to their own stuff.
They own it, not Fender.

"Maury, I am out of control. Yeah, I use drugs. I can do what I waunt, biatch! Yeah, I have sex, and I don't use protection! It's my hot body; I'll do what I waunt! I don't go to school and I kill people! What-evah! I'll do what I waunt!"

[1SHOT1HIT]

Originally Posted by Turock

I think it would be more accurate to assume that this is how people get ripped off.

Yeah, this is a way people get ripped off, Does it mean that everyone doing it is going to rip someone of or even doing it for that reason? No

Originally Posted by Turock

It appears that you are saying that Fender does care.

Fair enough, I'm definitely guilty of saying the could/couldn't care less thing wrong.

My apologies, Fender COULDN'T care less. Better? Good.

Originally Posted by Turock

"Maury, I am out of control. Yeah, I use drugs. I can do what I waunt, biatch! Yeah, I have sex, and I don't use protection! It's my hot body; I'll do what I waunt! I don't go to school and I kill people! What-evah! I'll do what I waunt!"

That's just not safe Turock, I think you should really consider saying NO, using protection, go back to school, stop killing people, and realize that you can only do what you waunt! with your bass.

[Double E]

Originally Posted by awilkie84

I present to you, the American Special Precision Bass Headstock!




Other than the decals on the back missing, the decal on the front, and the tuners used are almost correct.
There may have also been a MIM that used that logo at some point, too.

It probably is a Squier, though.

Look at the position of the decal...it is way off. If you are gonna install a fake decal, at least look at a real one for reference.



Alternately maybe it was installed incorrectly on purpose to make it obvious that it's fake.

[Double E]

Also, that is no Squier either...it's an abortion of a parts bass. It's clear that the wrong tuners were install from the get-go. No matter how bad you think Fender's/Squier's quality control is, they would never ship a bass like that.

Utter fraud I say.

[rockinrayduke]

The font used on the words "Precision Bass" alone should tip a lot of you off that the logo is a fake and the bass is being misrepresented. You have never seen that particular logo on any legit Fender P-Bass.