Info about 2012 Fender Jazz

[RS]

I played the natural ash colored one with a rosewood board at GC near me last week. Whatever pickups it had it sounded and played very nice. Worth the cash IMO.

[jamminology101]

Originally Posted by Jeff K

Ha ha! Good eye, SolarMan. I have to admit that I did NOT realize it until I posted that pic last night. Then I noticed it. I was wondering if any of you would spot that! Thanks...

I bought it used; and I guess I didn't look it over as well as I thought I had. But I really like this bass. It's the lightest weight Jazz I've ever owned, and sounds really nice.

Lighter by one screw

[Bongolation]

Originally Posted by bassguitarthund

Finish is excellent on the neck and body, does not seem cheaper to me. Unless hand stained is cheaper to do than a painted or clear coat?

Greatly...in terms of production bean-counting.

Low-gloss finishes are big production money-savers.

Fretboards and finishes are the biggest labor-consumers, and they go to considerable lengths to reduce time in the routines between models. What FMIC internally refers to as a "dry" finish eliminates the entire buff-out stage (and sometimes others as well), which is pretty $killed labor on the current thin polyurethane.

I don't plan on changing the pups on my bass. Of course I am still waiting to hear back from Fender for conformation.

You can always pull one and check the number on the back. It's the only way to be sure, and Fender customer support is far from reliable on information when it's about any model out of the ordinary.

It may be something entirely different, but my guess is it's the previous 33753/46 set from the description. There's nothing wrong with them. Could be the MIM 58358/9 "vintage" set used on the HO, but probably not. BTW, both of those sets are called "vintage," but there's absolutely nothing "vintage" about them. "Vintage" is merely a meaningless free buzzword that Fender Marketing copywriters use at least once in every paragraph about anything, it seems.

[Jeff K]

Originally Posted by jamminology101

Lighter by one screw

Good point...

[bassguitarthund]

Originally Posted by Bongolation

Greatly...in terms of production bean-counting.

Low-gloss finishes are big production money-savers.

Fretboards and finishes are the biggest labor-consumers, and they go to considerable lengths to reduce time in the routines between models. What FMIC internally refers to as a "dry" finish eliminates the entire buff-out stage (and sometimes others as well), which is pretty $killed labor on the current thin polyurethane.

You can always pull one and check the number on the back. It's the only way to be sure, and Fender customer support is far from reliable on information when it's about any model out of the ordinary.

It may be something entirely different, but my guess is it's the previous 33753/46 set from the description. There's nothing wrong with them. Could be the MIM 58358/9 "vintage" set used on the HO, but probably not. BTW, both of those sets are called "vintage," but there's absolutely nothing "vintage" about them. "Vintage" is merely a meaningless free buzzword that Fender Marketing copywriters use at least once in every paragraph about anything, it seems.

Ok gotcha. That makes sense about the finish.

I may pull out one of the pickups when I get the time and then come back here with what I find. Maybe a little while before I do that though. Very busy lately and kinda nervous that I might mess something up as far as the adjustment. Guess I could measure the height before I do it though.

[Bongolation]

Originally Posted by bassguitarthund

I may pull out one of the pickups when I get the time and then come back here with what I find. Maybe a little while before I do that though. Very busy lately and kinda nervous that I might mess something up as far as the adjustment.

I'd be more concerned about screwing up the fragile windings.

I partially pulled and detailed a rare 56120/1 set of Precision pickups last night that had the gaps between the flush beveled poles and the covers filled up with a combination of displaced potting wax and unspeakable filth. I always sweat nicking a winding or parting an inside primary lead, but I didn't.

I do think that this grubby situation explains why Fender dropped the beveled magnets when flush with the covers.

Guess I could measure the height before I do it though.

Yeah, or just readjust them to suit.

[jamminology101]

Good way for fender to get rid of all the soon to be obsolete jazz pickups(at least spec wise on American standards)....then some years down the line they will need some $ and blow the dust off the remaining stock and do a limited run of of '08-12' "closet classics... stock gone, profit maximized, everyones happy ryt???

[4OnTheFloor]

Originally Posted by svp

Was in a local bass shop recently and saw a 2012 Fender Jazz that caught my eye, it sounded amazing and played great, and am hoping I can get some info on this particular model. It was a american standard, had a stained ash body and on the neckplate it said limited edition. Was wondering if it has same specs as other american standard jazzes (same pups)? Thanks for any info.

I played one at a local GC and while I thought it was very nice. It is no different than my 2004 MIA Jazz bass. Best advice IMHO ... buy a used MIA jazz bass.

[bassguitarthund]

Originally Posted by Bongolation

Yeah, or just readjust them to suit.

Afraid I would not be able to get them adjusted correctly, lol. I need to learn how to set up and adjust my own basses. I always take them in and have it done.

[bassguitarthund]

By the way still waiting to hear from Fender. Of course I realize it is the holidays so it may take longer to get a reply.

[bassguitarthund]

Ok just got an email back from Fender about the pickups in my bass. They are indeed.....not custom shop pickups. Here is what they had to say (copy and paste from email reply)

"Hello Adam,

Thank you for contacting Consumer Relations.

This model came before, but close to, the time when Fender changed the American Standard pickups to the Custom Shop 60’s pickups. The Hand Stained Ash Jazz Bass launched in February 2012 and the change to the American Standard Series happened in March 2012. This is using the American Standard Jazz Bass pickups (specs below). They are tonally not much different than the Custom Shop 60’s pickups both are based on vintage pickups, but wound hotter for a punchier tone. I hope this helps.



Model Name: American Standard Hand Stained Ash Jazz Bass®

Model Number: 017-8400-(790) and 017-8402-(786)

Series: American Standard Series

Body: Ash

Neck: Graphite Reinforced Maple, Modern “C” Shape,

(Gloss Headstock Face with Satin Urethane Finish on Back of Neck)

Fingerboard: Rosewood (P/N 017-8400) or Maple (P/N 017-8402), 9.5” Radius (241 mm)

No. of Frets: 20 Medium Jumbo Frets

Scale Length: 34” (863.6 mm)

Width @ Nut: 1.50” (38 mm)



Hardware: Chrome

Machine Heads: Fender®/Hipshot® Vintage Keys with Tapered Shafts

Bridge: HMV, High Mass Vintage, (Strings-Thru-Body or Topload)

Pickguard: 3-Ply Black/White/Black

Pickups: 2 American Standard Jazz Bass Single-Coil Pickups

Pickup Switching: None

Controls: Volume 1. (Neck Pickup),

Volume 2. (Bridge Pickup),

Master Tone

Colors: (790) Wine Red,

(786) Mahogany Stain,

(Hand-Rubbed Stain with Satin Lacquer Top Coat)

Strings: Fender 7250M NPS, p/n 0737250406,

Gauges: .045, .065, .085, .105



Unique Features: Tinted Neck,

Maple Fingerboard Neck: Satin Finish on Back, Gloss Finish on Front;

Rosewood Fingerboard Neck: Satin Finish on Back, Gloss Finish on Headstock Front with Buffed Fingerboard,

HMV Bridge with Chromed Brass Saddles and Black Plate, and Chromed Steel Base Plate,

Fender Spaghetti Logo,

PosiflexTM Graphite Neck Support Rods,

Rounded Body Shape,

Rolled Fingerboard Edges,

New Molded Fender/SKB Case with TSA Locks, Glass Reinforced Nylon Trigger Latches, and Form Fitted Plush Interior



Source: U.S.

Accessories: Fender/SKB® Case, Cable, Strap, Polishing Cloth

U.S. MSRP: $1,699.99

INTRODUCED: 2/2012

DISCONTINUED:

DISCONTINUED COLORS:

COMMENTS: 150 Units globally in each color. Uses Case P/N 0996171506

WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod Adjustment “T” Wrench, (3/16" Hex), P/N 0048693000,

Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench, (1/16" Hex), P/N 0021109000,

Intonation Adjustment Wrench, (7/64” Hex), P/N 0076157000

Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice



best regards,



Steve Danielak

Consumer Relations Department"

[Musicman20]

I have heard the CS pups are hotter....but you have a nice bass there!

[bassguitarthund]

Originally Posted by Musicman20

I have heard the CS pups are hotter....but you have a nice bass there!

Thanks, I really love this bass!!!