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john nam 03-05-2013 12:06 PM

Jazz vs. Stingray
 
Most of the time, I go for the aggressive yet thick sound with my jazz with the bridge pickup favored and bass dialed up. I really dig the Stingray sound for this reason and I'm thinking about getting one, but then there's those few times I want that neck pickup sound on my jazz.

My question is, do you think that a fender jazz with single coils can mimick a stingray pretty closely with some eq'ing? I can get close to that sound at home, but I'm not sure how it would compare with a stingray (single h) in a band situation.

Eric Moesle 03-05-2013 12:34 PM

Apples and oranges IMO. They don't sound anything alike. You can make both sound great, just not like each other.

Alex1984 03-05-2013 01:23 PM

Pretty hard to mimic a Stingray without getting into actives. They both sound good in their own rights.

Caca de Kick 03-05-2013 02:35 PM

The simple answer is: own both!

Mogalen 03-05-2013 02:48 PM

Stingray, any day of the week.

cjmodulus 03-05-2013 02:52 PM

There's always a stingray with a neck pickup if you want. Every one I've played has sounded great with several useable but different tones IMO.

It really is an apples and oranges thing though, as others have said.

john nam 03-05-2013 04:33 PM

do you guys think a jazz with a nice tube amp can get close to queen's "another bites the dust" tone (clip below) or is a stingray/sterling the only way to get near that kind of tone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeMrttj8Ucg

my guess is that a jazz can come 75% close, but it's more of a high-mid growl rather than the stingray's low-mid growl, making the stingray's growl thicker sounding. i'm trying to avoid having to buy a stingray/sterling if i can get at least 75-80% of it's sound with a jazz, what a dilemma :). what do you guys think?

Britbonic 03-05-2013 04:48 PM

As a long time Fender guy (Jazz and PBass) and recent Stingray (SR5) owner would say not really. I've spent some time trying to EQ my SR5 to sound more like a PBass when needed and it can come close but playing them side by side there's no comparison. Close in the same way that if you roll off the bridge pickup on a Jazz it sounds more like a PBass but again once you do the direct comparison, it's over.

That said, it depends of course on what you're trying to achieve. Are you trying to cop this sound live for a cover band or doing some recording and want a Stingray like sound? For cover bands, I've always found that playing the part close to the way it was recorded is more important than trying to cop the exact tone. Of course you can tweak eq controls, pedals, etc live but too many other variables even under the best of circumstances. However for recording, if you want that tone, you'll need to buy/rent/borrow a Stingray. No amount of tweaking or tube amps/preamps is gonna give you that sound.

chuck norriss 03-05-2013 04:50 PM

The SR is also available w/ H-bridge J-neck.

Britbonic 03-05-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck norriss (Post 13982292)
The SR is also available w/ H-bridge J-neck.


Its single coil musicman pickup so it will get you closer to the sound of a jazz when using with single coil of bridge humbucker but IMO doesn't really sound like a jazz bass.

Tupac 03-05-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by john nam (Post 13982205)
do you guys think a jazz with a nice tube amp can get close to queen's "another bites the dust" tone (clip below) or is a stingray/sterling the only way to get near that kind of tone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeMrttj8Ucg

my guess is that a jazz can come 75% close, but it's more of a high-mid growl rather than the stingray's low-mid growl, making the stingray's growl thicker sounding. i'm trying to avoid having to buy a stingray/sterling if i can get at least 75-80% of it's sound with a jazz, what a dilemma :). what do you guys think?

Boost mids, roll off the neck pup, play at the bridge pup.

bassbenj 03-06-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Britbonic (Post 13983173)
Its single coil musicman pickup so it will get you closer to the sound of a jazz when using with single coil of bridge humbucker but IMO doesn't really sound like a jazz bass.

No it doesn't. A Stingray is it's own animal. Nothing is like it and nothing really sounds like it. You either love it or you don't.

Point is if you want the stingray sound you get a stingray. If you want a Jazz bass sound you get a jazz bass. There is no making one sound like the other. And since this is TB that is why I own both.

Rule: you can never own too many basses.

chuck norriss 03-06-2013 12:18 AM

I played a stingray with a birdseye maple neck--the finish looked like it was made of honey. Do you know the one? The most beautiful neck I ever put my dirty mitts on. The end.

jmattbassplaya 03-06-2013 12:41 AM

A dual buck StingRay will get closer to a jazz sound than a jazz will to a StingRay sound. That said, they'll still sound nothing alike.

cnltb 03-06-2013 12:48 AM

A Jazz mimicking a ray?
I doubt that this will be very successful.

Britbonic 03-06-2013 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck norriss (Post 13984242)
I played a stingray with a birdseye maple neck--the finish looked like it was made of honey. Do you know the one? The most beautiful neck I ever put my dirty mitts on. The end.

Does it look like this one?



That's my bass, a PDN 2012 Stingray 5. Diggin it!

BassedInSpace 03-06-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Britbonic (Post 13984417)
Does it look like this one?



That's my bass, a PDN 2012 Stingray 5. Diggin it!

I think I broke one of my eyeballs trying to squint at that pic. ;)

superdick2112 03-06-2013 02:41 AM

I love my Jazz. It is versatile, it records & works well for just about any type of music, and it has a very comfortable neck.
My Stingray, however, is an absolute monster for slap or metal.

If I could only own one?
The Jazz, for sure.

Britbonic 03-06-2013 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BassedInSpace (Post 13984425)
I think I broke one of my eyeballs trying to squint at that pic. ;)

Sorry - here's a larger one but doesn't show neck as well.



Just got back from a funk jam where I played a couple tunes on this bass.


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