The Kramer Club - Page 36

amimbari · #**701** 03-20-2012, 08:30 AM

I always did it like this and never worried about what way the tuners turned honestly....

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RostyM · #**702** 03-20-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TRichardsbass

I don't remember that there were any specific warnings for stringing them, and I asked a few old Kramer guys here and they agree. The key is to look for which direction the string has the straightest run to the tuning peg, then wrap accordingly. That should tell you the direction. I am pretty sure that the direction should be counter clockwise to tighten. Typically on tuners on the top of the heasdtock you turn CCW to tighten.

I've had basses that wrap different ways on the different tuners and usually it's quite obvious which way is right because the string lines up directly with the slot on the nut in one of the directions. On these Kramer's, which I am new to, most people seem to tighten all in the CCW direction (at least that's what the pictures show, like the ones in amimbari's post), and other than for the E string, that puts the string on the side of the tuner that is furthest from the slot in the nut that each string goes to. It seems odd/wrong, but like I said I'm new to these things. My luthier's logic was that when they are wrapped so all tighern in the CW direction, the E sting is pulling on the nut in one direction and the others are pulling slightly in the other direction, splitting the directions of the forces on the nut. I read somewhere (in my searches for info on the Forum basses) about a guy that had trouble with his nut moving on a Forum bass whenever he tightened the strings tuning it, and I wanted to avoid that if at all possible. Maybe that's not a common problem. Thanks for the replies!

amimbari · #**703** 03-20-2012, 09:53 AM

you mean wrapping them both ways RostyM?

the prev. owner did it that way because he felt the same way ( as straight as possible thru the nut )

it was a pain to remember which way the tuners would turn so it got switched when I changed the strings.

RostyM · #**704** 03-20-2012, 10:33 AM

Yep, that's what I meant, although I thought the A string would be more aligned with its nut slot if wound CW to tighten like the D and G, but I'm not sure that's right. So, what I initially thought was I would wrap like you have shown for E, D and G, and with the A string going the other way. I'm going to defer to the luther on this one as far as how mine is set up. Anyone know how they were strung new from the factory? Are there original brochures out there anywhere that might show how they were done?

Rosty

TRichardsbass · #**705** 03-20-2012, 11:23 AM

I will edit myself.

The strings for these Kramers should all go under the peg, and wrap CCW. In this case its meant to spread out a little to look cool. It doesn't matter from a playing standpoint, but you typically string so its CCW to tighten. So, if that is "under" for this bass, then all should go under.

The only bass that I own where that is different is my Kubicki Key Factor4, where the E and G strings still tune up CCW, but the posts and gears are set for the strings to have a straight pull to all four pegs, E and G wrap from the outside in, and A and D from the inside out.

I keep forgeting this was the '80s.

RostyM · #**706** 03-20-2012, 12:49 PM

Interesting. All of the basses I've had with the tuners on left and right side rather than in line wrapped CCW on the left and CW on the right.

RostyM · #**707** 03-26-2012, 07:57 AM

Just an FYI here, there is a Kramer Forum III on Ebay that looks to be in decent condition with a Buy it Now for $199.

amimbari · #**708** 03-26-2012, 08:17 AM

yes there is 200 is a good price even though that is not a spector-kramer.

Holliwood · #**709** 04-06-2012, 09:55 PM

KK

Arrived yesterday after just a week to travel 3000 miles.

VERY pleased.
Props to Jammin Jersey in Northridge CA for great service.

amimbari · #**710** 04-07-2012, 09:12 AM

very nice find. I don't know if I like the diamonds or pepper inlays more

but those are much more rare to find.

amimbari · #**711** 04-27-2012, 04:37 PM

Well fellow Kramerists.... I just found a white spector/kramer forum4. I'll post some pics when it arrives sometime next week

Deef · #**712** 04-30-2012, 03:45 AM

Been posted in other places, but here's my Kramer D-1

amimbari · #**713** 04-30-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by amimbari

Well fellow Kramerists.... I just found a white spector/kramer forum4. I'll post some pics when it arrives sometime next week

well this one went away. the guy on ebay who sold it to me was a dork and said "he could not retrieve the money from paypal", I saw it was unclaimed and just cancelled the transaction AFTER that person relisted it because his "friend told him to" for more money and there was a bid on it -- all in one day!!!. I wasn't about to send him a m.o. with zero feedback.

oh well, no F4 for me. not worth the hassle.

winston · #**714** 04-30-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Holliwood

KK

Arrived yesterday after just a week to travel 3000 miles.

VERY pleased.
Props to Jammin Jersey in Northridge CA for great service.

Does that have those active Seymour Duncans with the little EQ switches?
If so, how do you like them?

skullservant · #**715** 05-25-2012, 10:49 PM

1978 Fretless Kramer 450B. Just came in the mail today. Never played a fretless before, but after playing this bass all night, I'm never playing anything else

JollyReaper · #**716** 06-12-2012, 11:46 AM

I have a 450b and a Duke. I took out the Duke's passive pickup and had a Bartolini soapbar style active pickup replace it.

amimbari · #**717** 06-12-2012, 11:57 AM

I am glad the club is getting some posts lately.

I also just found a lefty Kramer 700ST really cheap and will post pics when I get it.

dcalde78 · #**718** 06-12-2012, 12:11 PM

A Forum III would be so nice to own. Shame there are literally no old Kramers in the UK, and if there are, no chance they'll ever be for sale. Oh well. I have a Disciple, got it last year I think, wicked tone for the price, not to mention the features (EMG MMCS, BTS, massive bridge, mahogany body, maple/ebony neck/fretboard). The asymmetrical neck (clearly taken from Tobias, as well as the body design) is a wonder to play.

Don't ask me about my expression, I don't understand it either!

amimbari · #**719** 06-12-2012, 12:27 PM

oh man dcalde, I just sold a F3 to someone in Sweden, too bad you didn't see it first

the import tax killed him, but he still loved it and will probably keep it for years and years.

dcalde78 · #**720** 06-12-2012, 12:36 PM

Oh well, I wouldn't have been able to afford it anyways, I can hardly afford to get through the month, and this is living with my parents! I need an upgraded amp first though, high power, low price... Fairly hard going with no secondhand market in the area!