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11-24-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Insouciance  I consider myself an enormous Krist Novoselic fanboy. Like a nerd, I have closely analyzed his sound: technique, equipment, style, all of it. Here are my findings.
1. He mostly played Gibson basses. On most of the Nirvana albums, he used a Gibson Ripper. He also toured a Gibson RD Artist bass a lot. He had that Thunderbird sometime in 1992. These are very expensive and harder to find, albeit AMAZING basses. An Epiphone Thunderbird will get you closer than you think, as they sound remarkably good.
2. He played with a pick. He also had a really heavy hand and laid into those strings. His bass was slung rather low that allowed him to really dig in for that aggressive sound.
3. His amps varied over the years, but he used an Ampeg Svt-400T on Nevermind, and the head went through a 2x15 cab. Playing through 15s will give you a punchier low mid sound like he had. In later years when they were doing arena shows, he changed to 8x10 cabs. On In Utero he had a highly modified Hi Watt head that was really, really dirty going through IIRC a 4x12.
Sometimes he used a Pro Co Rat pedal to wonderful results. | Great info thanks I have to look into that rat pedal
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11-24-2012, 04:26 PM
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11-24-2012, 06:23 PM
| | | | signal flex used to make a cheap distortion pedal that i liked a lot for playing songs off of Nevermind. It was called... ... ... Signal flex SUPER Distortion
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11-24-2012, 06:36 PM
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11-24-2012, 06:51 PM
| | | Yea mahn personally i would grab an epi pro tbird instead of the krist sig. I tried it out a while ago and...it was friggin HEAVY!!!! and since your just starting out i think a tbird would probs be more comfy (nevermind any cases of neck dive). But if you do see a krist sig somewhere make sure you try it out for yourself i could just be a scrawny dude  |
11-24-2012, 07:13 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | the gibson basses are big and unwieldy too, krist is 6 foot 9 or so |
11-24-2012, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TBird1958 The Epiphone Classic Pro IV will run 499, I have one and have posted a review on the forum, it's a very nice Thunderbird at that price. Played with a pick and Round Wounds it'll sound great!
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As far as Christ goes.. What everyone is saying Overdrive and Thunderbird/RD style basses.. If you have the Cash Get a HIWATT also remember that his Recorded tones were separated Hi..Low and Mic all Overdrivin.. Good Luck. I have the Multitrack Masters for a few songs I will try and get them online
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11-24-2012, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetwillyp Cool the Bassist for The Nasty Habits is on here..
You Lady's RULE!!!
As far as Christ goes.. What everyone is saying Overdrive and Thunderbird/RD style basses.. If you have the Cash Get a HIWATT also remember that his Recorded tones were separated Hi..Low and Mic all Overdrivin.. Good Luck. I have the Multitrack Masters for a few songs I will try and get them online | I'm honored Sir!
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11-25-2012, 05:32 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brooklyn & Queens, NYC | | Here is a VERY cool blog post written by Mr. Novoselic himself! It explains the amp used on the recording of Nevermind! http://kristnovoselic.blogspot.com/2...er-values.html
Krist used his Ripper for the recording of Nevermind and a pair of Mesa RR 2x15 cabinets (for the Nevermind tour this remained the same)
ALSO on the Nevermind tour, he HEAVILY used the Gibson RD Artist as well as an Ebony Ripper/Natural Ripper. The Black Eagle was still being used occasionally as well. I think it is amazing how his tone on Nevermind (which is my favorite tone ever) was recorded with a SS Ampeg amp!
For In Utero, he used the Ripper once again but THIS TIME through a.....
HiWatt Custom 100 watt
Here is the somewhat complex HiWatt saga: I found Krist his first one at a Seattle pawnshop for $300, and it had been previously drilled for a preamp output on the back. Andy Marshall at THD Electronics upgraded the preamp line out and modded the amp for KT-90 tubes (see below for more info). We bought a Groove Tubes speaker emulator to run the entire amp through the power amps and into the array of Boogie & Marshall cabs. The line out direct from the preamp sounded best, so we typically ran the HiWatt not utilizing the KT-90 output section at all, with the exception of the Crocodile Cafe show where I believe we used the HiWatts with 2 Marshall 4X12 cabs, and the recording of In Utero. For In Utero the HiWatts were sent out as was a 100 watt 1968 Marshall plexi Super Lead converted to 6550 tubes.
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11-25-2012, 05:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Santa Monica, CA | | | +1 Gibson products and a VT pedal are a great place to start.
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11-25-2012, 11:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Diego, California | | | If you really want it maybe try to get his Signature RD for a cheaper price? I tried it at guitar center once, heavy as hell with beefy tone, but that price tag sure broke my heart. |
11-25-2012, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BassSurfer Here is a VERY cool blog post written by Mr. Novoselic himself! It explains the amp used on the recording of Nevermind! http://kristnovoselic.blogspot.com/2...er-values.html
Krist used his Ripper for the recording of Nevermind and a pair of Mesa RR 2x15 cabinets (for the Nevermind tour this remained the same)
ALSO on the Nevermind tour, he HEAVILY used the Gibson RD Artist as well as an Ebony Ripper/Natural Ripper. The Black Eagle was still being used occasionally as well. I think it is amazing how his tone on Nevermind (which is my favorite tone ever) was recorded with a SS Ampeg amp!
For In Utero, he used the Ripper once again but THIS TIME through a.....
HiWatt Custom 100 watt
Here is the somewhat complex HiWatt saga: I found Krist his first one at a Seattle pawnshop for $300, and it had been previously drilled for a preamp output on the back. Andy Marshall at THD Electronics upgraded the preamp line out and modded the amp for KT-90 tubes (see below for more info). We bought a Groove Tubes speaker emulator to run the entire amp through the power amps and into the array of Boogie & Marshall cabs. The line out direct from the preamp sounded best, so we typically ran the HiWatt not utilizing the KT-90 output section at all, with the exception of the Crocodile Cafe show where I believe we used the HiWatts with 2 Marshall 4X12 cabs, and the recording of In Utero. For In Utero the HiWatts were sent out as was a 100 watt 1968 Marshall plexi Super Lead converted to 6550 tubes. | I love his tone on the studio version of Pennyroyal Tea.
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11-25-2012, 12:29 PM
| | | | I was never a huge Nirvana fan (but loved Nevermind as did just about everyone else who grew up in the 90s), but I've always really liked Novoselic's tone. I used to get chills when my last band would cover Teen Spirit and I could hear my bass coming off a really good FOH mix. I'd really nail that sound. I did it with a Carvin LB75, a pick, and some new-ish roundwounds. Some well-EQed mids help as well. Amp-wise, I got that sound through everything from a BBE Bmax/QSC to a Mesa 400+.
As has been stated, you're bass should easily be able to replicate that tone. The Rumble series amps are pretty entry-level. You're probably never going to get that tight, full low and low-mid sound that is indicative of Novoselic's tone with that amp. But with that said, don't run out and buy a new amp just because it may not get that sound. As others have said, since you're new, spend your time and effort really getting to know your chosen instrument and work on becoming a well-rounded player. It's fun to sometimes emulate your heros, but you're at the stage that the majority of your effort should be spent concentrating on nailing the fundamentals of your instrument.
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