A Legit Reason To USe a Fender Decal

[steveinohio]

Put it on whatever you want. No shame in it. Big deal. While othere dudes are obsessing over "decal or no decal" and calling names like school girls you are playing. Let those "real musicians" sit at home and cry about their "moral" views on internet message boards.


IMHO.

[TJBass]

Although I really dont care if you put a fender decal on a turd and try to sell it as a fender, its always going to be "buyer beware." If your a fender purist you'll probably know as soon as you see it that its a fake

Im not a fender fan, so I took the decal off and put my own on.

[Joe Nerve]

Originally Posted by nickrs540

I get it, but If I was in your situation I'd rather just take the logo off completely before putting a Fender one on. Or maybe put a custom one with your name or something. Either way they wont think it's a squire and then you aren't trying to pass it off as a "fake" fender to the people that care about that kind of stuff.

I felt exactly as the op did, and did this.

[steelbed45]

Originally Posted by steveinohio

Put it on whatever you want. No shame in it. Big deal. While othere dudes are obsessing over "decal or no decal" and calling names like school girls you are playing. Let those "real musicians" sit at home and cry about their "moral" views on internet message boards.


IMHO.

You just did that very thing, albeit your morals are on the other side of the fence. Oh, the irony!

[bolophonic]

Originally Posted by LikeRaphael

Well, I think so -- others will not I'm sure.

It isn't because i want to pretend I have a Fender -- I have three.

It's not because I want to feel I can afford a better instrument -- I own some very expensive ones.

It's not because I would try and sell it as a Fender -- that's just wrong.

It's because I really like the Squier J Deluxe and would prefer to use it on certain jobs and recordings ...HOWEVER...there is a stigma about using what some may consider a "hobbyists" instrument. That can put 2 strikes against you from the start. They see that "Squier" and they get nervous. They see Fender and they're secure.

Yeah, yeah, I let my playing speak for me. And I actually think it's kinda cool that I can make a $300 instrument sound better than a lot of $3000 instruments. But heaven forbid, if something goes wrong, people will assume it's because you're using a cheap entry level bass. If it's a Fender -- sorry guys, I have a short. And no one would blame me.

Call it justification -- I call it business.

And oh yeah, you won;t believe how many compliments I get on my sound when using that bass. Totally stock. It really is something special.

Blah blah blah. Totally lame to do it, no matter what.

[SBassman]

I don't think you did anything wrong, and I think the reason you cite makes sense.

[Immigrant]

I thought "engineers" would get past the "If it's not a Fender, it's not a bass" thinking by now. I use the term "engineers" loosely because most of em suck anyway. Maybe someday music recording will be done by the same film school losers who can't mix a film's sound decently and other basses that aren't Fenders will be allowed in the studio.

I guess the only way to play what you prefer in a studio situation is to become accomplished enough that you can dictate which bass you play. Then the lazy engineer will have to lift his lazy-ass arm and twist a knob or two.

I call BS on this thread anyway. It's another "is it OK to stuff this sock down my pants?" thread.

[Jeff Scott]

Originally Posted by LikeRaphael

But since Squier IS a Fender company.....

Then, send your Squier back to Fender and ask them to put a Fender decal on your Squier and see what they say/do.

[Jeff Scott]

Originally Posted by Immigrant

I thought "engineers" would get past the "If it's not a Fender, it's not a bass" thinking by now. I use the term "engineers" loosely because most of em suck anyway.

Just like live sound droids who insist their ($29 when new) beatup, taped back together Behringer DI box is better than anything you have to use.

[Schlyder]

Adding to my previous comment..... I have nothing against a Squier instrument.
If it plays good, and sounds good, that is all that matters.
I would purchase a Squier instrument, and play the hell out of it with no qualms. They are an acceptable quality instrument, and a good value for the price point. And there is no shame in owning one.
I may, in the future, buy a Squier guitar. So, I have nothing against the name.

I think it's weak, if you feel you must remove the Squier decal, and put a Fender decal on, to feel "more credible" to others. And you will end up having less credibilty with others when the deception is found out. Not to mention... you know it's not a Fender!

If you want a Fender... save up your dollars, and buy a Fender.

[Kryptos]

Originally Posted by Immigrant

I thought "engineers" would get past the "If it's not a Fender, it's not a bass" thinking by now. I use the term "engineers" loosely because most of em suck anyway. Maybe someday music recording will be done by the same film school losers who can't mix a film's sound decently and other basses that aren't Fenders will be allowed in the studio.

I guess the only way to play what you prefer in a studio situation is to become accomplished enough that you can dictate which bass you play. Then the lazy engineer will have to lift his lazy-ass arm and twist a knob or two.

I call BS on this thread anyway. It's another "is it OK to stuff this sock down my pants?" thread.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

[stratovani]

Originally Posted by Schlyder

Adding to my previous comment..... I have nothing against a Squier instrument.
If it plays good, and sounds good, that is all that matters.
I would purchase a Squier instrument, and play the hell out of it with no qualms. They are an acceptable quality instrument, and a good value for the price point. And there is no shame in owning one.
I may, in the future, buy a Squier guitar. So, I have nothing against the name.

I think it's weak, if you feel you must remove the Squier decal, and put a Fender decal on, to feel "more credible" to others. And you will end up having less credibilty with others when the deception is found out. Not to mention... you know it's not a Fender!

If you want a Fender... save up your dollars, and buy a Fender.

This. I would also add that I have a Squier Strat that I replaced the neck, and I bought some $1 letter stickers at Wallyworld and wrote out "Squier" on the headstock. Nowadays Squiers are of such good quality that there should be no shame or stigma in owning and playing one.

[bassistjoe93]

I don't care what anyone does with their basses, it's of no concern to me. I don't get how changing the logo out makes a person pathetic or speaks volumes about their character. I personally changed the squier logo on my bass to a 70's logo because I was young and wanted a 70's looking jazz bass w/o the price tag. After ripping the frets out, aging the parts, and staining it walnut brown, I couldn't sell it if I wanted to (its very obviously not a real 70's fender) and I would represent it as a squier bass. The people that try to pass it off and sell it as a legit Fender are the only ones I would say have low moral character.

Play what you want, dress it as you want, but don't sell it as something it's not.

[VBassRookie]

I really don't care what the brand is if it plays and sounds the way I want. I would much rather sit in on a jam session with a bunch of guys and kick all there butts playing a "cheaper" guitar. It just shows that 90% of the results are the player in the end anyways.

[DwaynieAD]

People listen with their eyes. This has been talked about ad nauseum here on talkbass and pretty much agreed upon. I feel as if someone actually could lose work because of the name on a headstock and changing the name on a squier to keep you in the running is ok. and I'm sure the majority of the posters on this board will call for my blood over such a statement, but i'm divorced so their isn't much left to be had.

however using a fender decal to attempt to pass a squier off as a fender for the purpose of sale should result in your rectum being destroyed with aforementioned headstock.

[C.Linton]

Originally Posted by Munjibunga

I think it's a silly reason. A legitimate reason would be that you have a Fender instrument that needs to be completely refinished or restored and you have to replace the decal as part of the restoration. Your reason smacks of self-consciousness over a trivial issue.

Exactly right.

[Turock]

Originally Posted by LikeRaphael

And oh yeah, you won;t believe how many compliments I get on my sound when using that bass. Totally stock. It really is something special.

It's so special that you are ashamed of it.

[C.Linton]

Originally Posted by DwaynieAD

People listen with their eyes. This has been talked about ad nauseum here on talkbass and pretty much agreed upon. I feel as if someone actually could lose work because of the name on a headstock and changing the name on a squier to keep you in the running is ok. and I'm sure the majority of the posters on this board will call for my blood over such a statement, but i'm divorced so their isn't much left to be had.

however using a fender decal to attempt to pass a squier off as a fender for the purpose of sale should result in your rectum being destroyed with aforementioned headstock.

And again, I have yet to hear any credible stories (or any stories at all) where this has actually happened to anyone. This whole thing smacks of paranoia and as Munji said, a lack of self-confidence over something trivial.

[Floyd Eye]

You own the bass. Whatever you do to it is legit.

[steelin4u]

I think the OP is speaking about 'what others that don't know about bass think about bass'. Sometimes these people are in a position of authority, like in the studio, and they feel they will only get the sound they are looking for from that label. Maybe they had bad experiences with other brands, maybe not. I feel if you can deliver what they want with a different product, change it. If you can't deliver the product they want, get something else.

You think everyone in Nashville loves playing a Fender bass through those damn GK stacks?