The Low End... Have you heard? - Page 2

Brian Barrett · #21 02-12-2013, 03:35 PM

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

He states the bass was damaged when he got it and tried to live with it for 39 days..... now was it damaged when he got it or damaged during the 39 days........... He should have contacted me right after receiving it!!!

He also lied to Chase and told them he was on tour and didn't see it for that time period.. he doesn't tour...

Chase also let it slip that I wasn't the only one he was in the middle of doing this too.

From the time he received it until he contacted me the first time which was 39 days later is the problem I have. I have no idea what he has done to it. I offered to help sell it for him free of charge/no consignment fee, but he wanted his money back and I explained it had been 39 days and I couldn't just refund him the money..... needless to say that is when he filed with chase. Why chase never made him returned the "damaged bass" is beyond me.... Not that I want a damaged bass back that must have happened during that 39 day period!

Jared Lash · #22 02-12-2013, 03:49 PM

Sheesh, what a crappy situation.

Best of luck to you Brian in getting a fair resolution.

Baird6869 · #23 02-12-2013, 03:55 PM

The worst part s that the low end will have to sell $20-40k in new basses to make up $4k in margin.

The idiot in question basically just stole a week or two of sales from a good company.

Douchebag.

**awilkie84** · #24 02-12-2013, 04:06 PM

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Ahhhhh.. it's the gummint's fault. I thought the guy was an unprincipled DB.

Laws don't protect the sellers. They protect the consumer, in this case. There is such a lack of law in this field that it's left up to the transaction companies to deem what is acceptable and what is not. You can go to small claims court, but that becomes a LOT of hassle.

johnson79 · #25 02-12-2013, 04:21 PM

I saw this on the Low End site. What a bunch of crap. I hate jerks like this!

cybersnyder · #26 02-12-2013, 04:23 PM

Some people are lowlife.

BuffaloBob4343 · #27 02-12-2013, 04:40 PM

It's times like this I wish I was a commerical lawyer and not a patent lawyer. I would love to help resolve this situation for free if I were experienced in dealing with CC companies who are stupid enough to handle things like this one has.

There is no way 39 days is reasonable for rejecting goods as not being suitable. Moreover, there is no freakin' way the cc card company should be refunding this anal pore's money unless the goods are first returned to the seller.

Hey Brian, do you know any really big scary dudes in the PA area?

Brian, you should be able to sue him for return of the rejected goods. He as taken payment back from you thanks to Chase, so he now holds your goods without payment. You should send him a certified letter from a lawyer demanding return of the bass within ten days, or you will file suit.

dmusic148 · #28 02-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Yep, sounds cut and dried. So what is supposedly damaged?

smcd · #29 02-12-2013, 05:26 PM

Let me see if I've got this straight....

This transaction went through a Chase Master Card. The buyer filed a dispute with Chase, who found against him. He then went directly to Master Card, and now Chase is refunding his money and allowing him to keep the instrument? Is that it?

I find this inconceivable. There must be more to this.

dmusic148 · #30 02-12-2013, 05:28 PM

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I find this inconceivable. There must be more to this.

Kinda where I was headed. I'm sure Brian is a straight up guy. But something smells weird here, that's all.

lowfreqgeek · #31 02-12-2013, 05:40 PM

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Kinda where I was headed. I'm sure Brian is a straight up guy. But something smells weird here, that's all.

Yeah - the douche bag ~~buyer~~ thief is what smells weird. The dude either keeps the money or the bass, not both. There is no justifiable excuse for that, so it's not even worth "investigating" his side of the story.

FWIW, I've been watching Brian's posts at The Low End since his initial one months ago. Brian has been way more than reasonably patient through this whole thing.

Planet Boulder · #32 02-12-2013, 05:40 PM

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That's absurd. Has Brian spoken with Chase? I think he should file a police report, and maybe get an angry mob together.

SolarMan · #33 02-12-2013, 05:42 PM

Imagine what a wonderful world it would be without scumbags like this dude in it.

"a bag of feces walking around disguised in human skin"

Good luck Brian, and I hope they throw the book at him. Oh, wait, throw the memo at him!

smcd · #34 02-12-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lowfreqgeek

Yeah - the douche bag buyer is what smells weird. The dude either keeps the money or the bass, not both. There is no justifiable excuse for that, so it's not even worth "investigating" his side of the story.

It's not that simple. It can't be. Credit card companies deal with disputes hundreds, maybe thousands of times a day. This dispute by the seller, as it's painted here, isn't even imaginative. I can not belive that the whole story is being told.

lowfreqgeek · #35 02-12-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smcd

It's not that simple. It can't be. Credit card companies deal with disputes hundreds, maybe thousands of times a day. This dispute by the seller, as it's painted here, isn't even imaginative. I can not belive that the whole story is being told.

Ok. Under what circumstances should the buyer be allowed to keep the bass AND get his $4k refund?

WJGreer · #36 02-12-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lowfreqgeek

Ok. Under what circumstances should the buyer be allowed to keep the bass AND get his $4k refund?

It might be timing. I don't think Master Card requires you to prove that you've returned merchandise before they refund your money. But, after a certain period of time, maybe 30 days - if the seller complains that you haven't, they may reverse the refund pending proof one way or the other.

This definitely favors the consumer and I'm not asserting that it's fair in this situation.

smcd · #37 02-12-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lowfreqgeek

Ok. Under what circumstances should the buyer be allowed to keep the bass AND get his $4k refund?

That's exactly why this situation, as it's being told, doesn't make sense.

**mjac28** · #38 02-12-2013, 06:17 PM

I don't get it either this is just crazy credit card companies are going to crazy extremes to take care of their customers and will be driving out smaller companies who can't absorb these costs in the process. I personally would sue Chase if they allow him to keep money and bass. I also want everyone to check out The LowEnd Bass Shop and let's give them some business.

WJGreer · #39 02-12-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mjac28

I personally would sue Chase if they allow him to keep money and bass.

Your zeal is well intended, surely - an individual suing Chase would need to have unlimited time and money and an amazing amount of patience as their legal resources are vast.

I do agree with your point about the companies favoring buyers, though. Has anyone tried to take action on eBay against a deadbeat buyer recently? There's essentially nothing you can do.

friskinator · #40 02-12-2013, 06:33 PM

They should take that buyer to The People's Court. I'd love to see Marilyn Milian rip him a new one.