Moving into Warwick territory....
I've never really been a fan of this brand, mostly due to the "clubby" neck profiles, ugly headstocks, and less-than-stellar quality control on newer models (loose tuner holes on 2 or three basses I tried/owned). I decided to give it another go, finding an absolute STEAL on a Streamer 5 $$ SE. It'll have a swamp ash body, with a 7-piece maple/ekanga neck. I played a Corvette 4 $$ years ago, and it was one of the best-sounding basses I've ever played. I've never tried a Streamer, not to mention with completely different woods.
Any Streamer/$$ owners and/or "demo-ers" who have experience and opinions on these basses, would be highly appreciated. If this thing plays as well as it looks, then I'll be a happy boy.
My Streamer LX5 fretless has a maple laminate neck (not sure of the dark wood) and it has a shallow profile that's quite comfortable to play. It has the MEC J pickups and a 2 band EQ; it sounds growly and I usually play it with the EQ set flat. It is not boomy or clicky, does not require boosting to sound great. I have not owned a Warwick with the $$ so I can't say you'll have the same experience.
I had 4 warwicks all of them 5 strings. A corvette standard, corvette FNA, thumb bo, and thumb nt. the thumb basses were both great sounding and playing instruments. But I had problems with all of them. The input jack went out on all of them. I did have some loose tuner issues, necks didnt want to stay put in hot humid environments. Worse though was the top of the thumb nt actually cracked a little because the bass/neck ended up bowing beyond the truss rod where the body and neck meet. This all sounds pretty bad. But when you consider I played warwicks for well over a decade gigging regularly they held up better than some other basses I've had. I definetly will never buy ibanez again.
If i got another warwick it would probably be a bolt on thumb. Either a pro series or a custom shop. id go thumb because thumb basses just have a more distinct sound where streamers an corvettes sound great but a bit more "generic". But if i joined a cover band or something where I didn't want that unique "character" the thumb has id probably get a streamer.
Hmmm, interesting words, guys-thanks! I totally need that growl factor, and yet I've bypassed this brand numerous times, because of being another victim of loose tuners. I've never owned one long enough to have any of the other problems, though.
I think what has been said and experienced about these things, probably came from the "regular" production basses, like what I had. The next one I'll be getting, though, is indeed a custom-shop model...a Ltd Edition "Rusty" finished Streamer, which supposedly initially sold for (I'm guessing) at least $4K. I'm snagging it, mint condition, for $1500!!
I have a Warwick Infinity SN-TCS for about 9 years. Never had any problems... Sound is HUGE no matter what venue I have played and no matter the amp that I was using (I am obviously talking for above decent amps). Also had a Thumb BO 5 for a year but I sold it because that particular model has a serious neckdive problem and since I am 99% a 4string player it had to go.
The $$ is a very versatile bass that will give you a plethora of tones. The quality control of the -German Made- Warwicks has always been top notch in my experience. Only problem that I had in all those years was some corroded tuners and that was cause by MY mistake leaving the bass in a questionable environment because I was very very busy at the time. Never seen or heard of Warwick and input jack problems.
If you can work your way around a chunckier neck, it is really worth it. The sound is great and the growl... awesome.
Keep in mind that because of all the wood variations that Warwick uses many of their models may sound quite different.
I've played Warwicks for better part of 17 years. First had a Corvette Standard for about 6-7 years and then moved on to a Streamer LX 5-string around 2003. I've had nothing but great experiences with these basses. Solid, sound great! Other players that try my Streamer love the way it plays and sounds. These intruments have a lot of great features and you'll realize this when you do a setup on the bass.
I'm in the Pittsburgh area as well. PM me, you're more than welcome to check out my Streamer if you want to get an idea. Granted the one your getting has different woods and electronics but you can at least get a feel for the neck, body shape, and general playability.
I don't really have any worries about getting a good sound from this level of instrument, just the KINDS of sound. I'm guessing singing and growly tones?, from the ash/maple/wenge combo. The corroded tuner issue won't be an...issue...with this one, since the hardware is either brushed nickel or purposely corroded for the look of the version I'm getting.
Oh, and since '07, I've played through a GK 1001 RB-II going through a Markbass Traveler 102P, and have had nothing but stellar results. So, I'm hopeful that I'll have some pretty beefy sound to back up my singer. :hyper:
I would think that this bass will take a nice, low action. I hate having to fight a bass at all. I like to just let the strings sing from a lower tension setup. I set the neck as flat as possible, too, and play with a medium-heavy attack, so I get a little of that Geezer Butler or Steve Harris character (when on the neck). I primarily play near the bridge pickup.
To my fellow Pittsburgher bassist, I may take you up on your bass. I live up Rt. 65, about 5-10 minutes from Rivers Casino.
My first Warwick - a Corvette $$ 4 - was hands-down the best bass I've ever played... I replaced it with a 5 in the same model/color because I needed the range.
There's a heft to the voice that I couldn't get out of other basses... my G&L 2K couldn't get the job done. More swiss-army than the L2K, which surprised me.
I'm working every weekend with a country band - there's plenty of singing sustain and growl; if anything, the challenge has been to cop the old-school P-bass tones some of those songs need. The aggressive voice and lack of decay are not P-bass, but with a VT Deluxe and a Tech 21 Blonde I've been getting the right tone. For awhile I had a piece of foam by the bridge to dampen.
There's more variation from right-hand position in the tone than any other bass I've had, as well - more useable range from right by the bridge to above the fretboard.
For the newer rock stuff, it's perfect - tight, solid, and musical.
Oh, and for the action -- with the adjustable nut and the well-engineered bridge, the action will go as low as your technique will allow --
I have a Streamer Jazzman, it's a great bass. Bought it new in 2011. I had to replace the tuner bushings, as they all BROKE! They were very cheap, and there is a TB'er that machines Warwick bushings from solid brass because it's such a widespread problem.
Other than that, it's a wonderful bass. I love the thin necks that Warwicks have, they feel great.
Over the years I've had:
Fortress Masterman..sold for some unknown reason.
Thumb 4...just could not get along with the small body but man that bass sounded fantastic.
Streamer Pro-M..sold for some unknown reason.
jump in, the water is fine
other than the tuner bushings, i've not had any real problems with my 04 Warwick Corvette ProLine.. (not Pro Series) the neck is very similar to a jazz bass at the nut..
i live near Houston, Texas.. so, i live in a hot, humid environment and haven't had any issues with it staying in set.. the neck is very stable..
i'm quite happy with it..
I've had a 2006 Corvette Standard for over a year now and it's still my favorite of any bass I've ever played or owned. I've never had an issue with it. It plays nice and sounds great and it's build quality is first rate.
well a streamer $$ is probably not gona sound any worse than a corvette $$! my guess is it'll sound pretty similar and maybe a little better.
Thanks for the input, guys...a few more weeks and she should be in my hands. Also, I've looked at pics of this bass on other sites, and only 11 were ever built! :eek::hyper:
I jammed Tuesday night with a few local musicians and brought my Warwick Thumb BO 6. They kept complimenting me on the sound. I also brought my Ampeg B2 head as they already had a speaker cabinet to use.
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