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Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 05:49 PM

My Yamaha BB300 doesn't sound very P-Bassy
 
I have been itching for a P for the longest time and it is impossible to find any that are left handed. I finally found a 1991 Yamaha BB300 on ebay and pulled the trigger. It arrived today and I threw on a set of Roto 77's and started playing away. I can not get anything remotely like that "traditional P sound". I tried messing with the tone knob, messed with my eq a little, but nothing. It doesn't sound bad, but I bought a P to be a P, not reproduce the sound I can get out of 3 of my other basses. It sounds very similar to my Yamaha BBN4 which has jazz pickups and Roto 66's on it. I have a list of possible problems that I figured could be the culprit, but I need help.

1) The Yamaha BB300 is not a very P sounding P bass in general. If you would want it to sound more like a P buy a new pickup.

2) Roto 77's are not the right flat to use to get that P sound.

3) Your Roto 77's are too fresh and need broken in.

4) Your tone knob and eq should be set to X.


https://soundcloud.com/pokerdweebz/bb300

Just added this. First clip is Full tone. Second tone off. Third Tone at 6. I think it sounds pretty Pish now that I played it more

Rip Topaz 03-04-2013 05:52 PM

Roto 77's are a bright flat. Might not have been the right string choice.

Is it "bedroom" P tone you're after or "band" P tone. The latter isn't all that bassy either.

Rip Topaz 03-04-2013 05:54 PM

Also try some foam under the strings at the bridge.

twocargar 03-04-2013 05:54 PM

The BB300 is a reverse P, so it's bound to sound different. I think mine sounds much different than my Squier P, before I added the bridge Jazz pickup to the BB300.

For me, if I wanted the P sound, I would have bought a Fenderish P, and not a Yamaha. I'm sure you can spend time and money changing the tone, but unless you reroute the pickup cavity, it's going to sound different.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 05:56 PM

Thanks for both the suggestions. I'll be sure to try that.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocargar (Post 13976602)
The BB300 is a reverse P, so it's bound to sound different. I think mine sounds much different than my Squier P, before I added the bridge Jazz pickup to the BB300.

For me, if I wanted the P sound, I would have bought a Fenderish P, and not a Yamaha. I'm sure you can spend time and money changing the tone, but unless you reroute the pickup cavity, it's going to sound different.

I wanted to but Fender P's in lefty are hard to come by. The only option I've seen for a while are MIA and I don't want to shell out that kind of cash. I think my BB300 is standard P. The Split over the E A is closer to the neck and D G is closer to the bridge.

Rip Topaz 03-04-2013 06:02 PM

You could always grab a lefty Rondo if you're really set on obtaining the classic P tone. They're cheap knockoffs but its a P-bass, kinda hard to screw up.

In a live situation, just being in the ballpark is good enough.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz (Post 13976660)
You could always grab a lefty Rondo if you're really set on obtaining the classic P tone. They're cheap knockoffs but its a P-bass, kinda hard to screw up.

In a live situation, just being in the ballpark is good enough.

True. I'm going to give this a chance and see what it sounds like at my next rehearsal.

JimmyM 03-04-2013 06:12 PM

I remmeber Justin Meldal-Johnsen talking about a new Yamaha model that he got from them as a prototype during his tenure with NIN. It was a PJ and he dug it but he said if you're expecting a traditional PJ tone from it, look elsewhere. More sustainy and hard edged, I believe, is what he said. Maybe you could roll one of those 62 Originals or a Duncan SPB-1 in there and get more of that sound, I don't know. But it sounds like Yamaha was never interested in building an exact P clone with those basses, and the ones I've played would confirm it.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyM (Post 13976719)
I remmeber Justin Meldal-Johnsen talking about a new Yamaha model that he got from them as a prototype during his tenure with NIN. It was a PJ and he dug it but he said if you're expecting a traditional PJ tone from it, look elsewhere. More sustainy and hard edged, I believe, is what he said. Maybe you could roll one of those 62 Originals or a Duncan SPB-1 in there and get more of that sound, I don't know. But it sounds like Yamaha was never interested in building an exact P clone with those basses, and the ones I've played would confirm it.

Sounds about right. I'm getting some pretty nice sounds out of it. I'm trying to record some clips to put up here.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 06:41 PM

Added audio clip

JimmyM 03-04-2013 06:45 PM

I don't know, dude...that sounded pretty P-like to me. Maybe not identical but very much in that realm.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 06:55 PM

Good. That's what I like to hear.

Musiclogic 03-04-2013 07:13 PM

My BB800 is still the best P I have ever played. P thump and growl but slightly clearer and a little more defined. Always preferred it.

Jimmy is right, that clip does have a great P sound.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 07:14 PM

Good. I'm glad I'm just nuts.

Bassamatic 03-04-2013 07:41 PM

I have had a couple of BB300s and have a 400 now that I have added a second reversed P Pickup to.

No - they don't sound exactly like a P, even if you change the pickup - I've tried. However, they have a really good sound, are well made and they are easy to play. The 300's are a great bargain. Enjoy.

Sparky6string 03-04-2013 07:44 PM

Yes sweet bass, and nice tones. I would still ove one of these. There's a guy close to me selling a BB3000 for cheap and it's tempting, but I also just want a BB300.

Pokerdweebz 03-04-2013 08:22 PM

Yeah I'm definitely happy with it. I would jump on any Yamaha BB that was left handed haha.

MakoMan 03-04-2013 09:29 PM

Try to look at it this way... it doesn't sound exactly like a P because it sounds even better than a P :D

PotsdamBass8 03-04-2013 09:30 PM

I find that p's as well as any single pickup bass, are very sensitive to hand position and pressure. Sometimes you just have to play it for a while to figure out how to get the sound you want.


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