NBD! 1985 Peavey Patriot (HOG!)
I just rescued this "experienced" cutie from Guitar Center in Syracuse, NY. $99.00! It still floors me that a perfectly functional, "vintage" Made-in-America bass can sell for that little. In MAHOGANY, no less! I've read that mahogany was a $75.00 upcharge if you ordered it new back in the day.
My new Patriot is the reddish one in the middle.
Anyway, the frets look a little worn, but servicable. There are scratches on the front and back, none major. A tiny divot gone from the headstock, but overall, this thing ROCKS! Electrics are fine, and that Super-Ferrite pickup is a MONSTER!
Here's one bass you can get where your first impression is NOT "I wonder which upgrade pickup is available for it?"
I'm thinking of stripping the remaining finish, fine sanding the body to get rid of the scratches, but am torn as which way to go next. Any advice from someone who knows these? Should I have it reshot in matte polyurethane? Should I use an Oil finish of some kind?
All advice cheerfully accepted!
That exact model / color is my very first bass...I would have bought that in a millisecond for that price! I went through so many pickguards on mine before I learned how to loop my cord through the strap. Good times.
$99 is a score. Nice bass to refinish. I'd start a thread asking for examples of mahogany basses and choose the best looking example as the type of refinish.
The best improvement I have made on my
Patriot was when I installed ROTO 77 Flats
Trust me on that.
The finish on mine got trashed and I used
Color-Shift paint like you get at Wollie-World,
I haven't seen anyone else with Color Shift
and I have received lots of compliments in
spite of my poor painting skills,
I played that bass.
Damn, I was just in Syracuse a few weeks ago and again never made it to GC. Very nice score. I'd really love to have a Patriot again.
Tricky Dick APPROVED! Thanks to all who replied. Yup, I think I need to research and look at all the mahogany finishes I can find online to determine the proper finish technique. That color-shift paint looks GREAT! I don't think I would ever paint over mahogany, but if I find another Patriot (or an early Fury) with a sad finish, I might consider doing that myself!
as for the refin, trans red gets my vote.
Oh, and I am a recent convert to flats. I am totally sold on the Fender 9050CLs. I understand that direct input from TalkBass members was one of the motivators for Fender to come out with these. I have found them on Feebay as cheap as $19.95 a set, which floors me for strings as nice as these!
Anyway, my first experience with them was a real revelation. All my painful, sloppy sounding finger work (I'm a novice player) on round wound strings almost DISAPPEARED using these flatwound strings. Also, the tactile feel vs. my old round wounds was like Teflon vs. grooves. And tonally? They sound great on every bass I've put them on so far. Exceptional on single-pickup basses. I haven't tried them on the T-40 yet, as it needs a refinish as bad as the above Patriot.
I'm learning as I go, and having a great time with that. And keeping it interesting by rescuing old Peavey basses!
I really like that color shift paint! To the OP, though, I think you should leave it alone. Battle scars and all. It's a workhorse - let it wear the badge that goes along with that.
Great addition, Congrats!
+1 for keeping it the way it is. Looks really good!
did anyone else notice the different colored silks on the strings lol? oh gc, why do you do this to us? :p i would highly recommend some pressurewounds for your bass, those super ferrites can be pretty dang aggressive, and pressurewounds would help mellow you out without the dead clunk of flats. but thats a good looking bass, i wouldnt touch the finish. im surprised the finish is as good as it is for its age, i would definitely expect forearm contour rub through the fiinish. Anyways, congrats :)
I have that same bass, except sometime in the past one of its previous custodians swapped the factory pickguard for a pearloid one. I like the looks both ways. I have toyed with refinishing mine as it has the same minor scratches on the body. But in the end as others have already suggested, I think I'll leave it be with the exception of applying some oil to the mahogany. Awesome score!
cool bass I find old peaveys at pawn shops around here. right now there is two tl-5's hanging. cool basses thap play and sound great!!!!!
Jeez....decisions, decisions! Now I've got just as many people advising me to leave the finish alone as I do recommendations for refinish! What to do...what to do.... The easiest thing to do is always....NOTHING! However, I am concerned about the parts of the front of the body where the finish has mostly degraded.
Will it further degrade what finish is left if I apply some oil to the open portions of this mahogany body? And if not, what is the recommended oil to use on this puppy?
Tung Oil? Any experiences would be appreciated.
I think that smcd was right...I should probably start another thread asking for refinish or body oil recommendations. Should it go here, or in a "Luthiers Corner", or what?
You'll find a lot of options for finishes in Luthier's Corner.
Don't oil where the finish is worn, either let it wear out and be proud of the added character or do a complete refinish. An oil or matte or satin finish would look really sweet but a battle-scarred original finish is nice too.
Congrats on the killer GC score. That bass is worth more than $100 in parts!
You should start a thread like that in the "basses" section. The Luthiers Corner won't generate many responses. There are "refinish" threads in Basses all the time. You could title the thread "Post your mahogany body basses" or "Mahogany body refinish - yes or no?"
You could apply some oil to the finish of this bass, but I don't think it will do anything except make the bass slippery. The raw wood exposed by those nicks and abrasions won't cause any degrading of the body at all.
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