New Fender American Vintage Series - Waiting Room

[P Bass Legend]

I never really understood why sunburst were cheapper than custom colours. Isn't it much easier to just paint the body of an instrument in solid colour? I mean, if you are painting a sunburst instrument you have to worry about contours, etc...

Btw, I know that some of them had sunburst under the custom finish.

[petrus61]

I know the reason vintage bursts are cheaper than custom colors is because they are so abundant.

[sigmafloyd]

Originally Posted by P Bass Legend

I never really understood why sunburst were cheapper than custom colours. Isn't it much easier to just paint the body of an instrument in solid colour? I mean, if you are painting a sunburst instrument you have to worry about contours, etc...

Btw, I know that some of them had sunburst under the custom finish.

I think that's the reason. Sunburst was the default and then custom colors were painted over the sunburst.

[Geroi Asfalta]

I wish for an extra $100 they'd let you pick any color from the custom shop

[9mmMike]

So when can we expect these to be available?

[D.M.N.]

Yeah, why haven't they gone live on Fender's site yet? I want to see specs! It seems all of Fender's other new introductions have, maybe it's still supposed to be their big reveal come NAMM?

[sigmafloyd]

They seem to be rolling stuff our pretty much daily. Last week saw the new selects and pawn shops and a new electric mandolin. Today they announced a new guitar amp. Not sure when the basses will be announced. Other than bassclubchicago mentioning it on their Facebook page (after we had the details here) this thread is the only place I have seen that has the scoop

[zortation]

Originally Posted by P Bass Legend

I never really understood why sunburst were cheapper than custom colours. Isn't it much easier to just paint the body of an instrument in solid colour? I mean, if you are painting a sunburst instrument you have to worry about contours, etc...

Btw, I know that some of them had sunburst under the custom finish.

Maybe primer is more expensive than clearcoat? I too am puzzled by this.



btw I bet that the painting is automated in the same way that they paint cars.

[petrus61]

As with any production line, since Fender offered sunburst as a standard color in their catalogue, that's what production was geared toward. Ordering a custom color would take the bass out of the regular production line...kind of like when you say "no ketchup" at McDonalds and it holds up everyone else's order.

[ShowLow]

Also, pricing by larger businesses is relatively independent of cost. Price is mainly determined by the consumer's willingness to pay. And it seems that in the case of AVRIs, we are willing!

[petrus61]

Originally Posted by ShowLow

Also, pricing by larger businesses is relatively independent of cost. Price is mainly determined by the consumer's willingness to pay. And it seems that in the case of AVRIs, we are willing!

To a point...I'm drawing the line at $1600.

[DaveMurietta]

Here's some specs from a music website for the 63. Don't know how accurate it is. Also has a list price of $2000

http://lamusiconline.blogspot.com/20...issue.html?m=1

The year 1963 marks an important moment in Precision Bass history, because that's when a comfortable new round-laminated rosewood fingerboard first appeared on the bass that started it all. That's here on the new American Vintage '63 Precision Bass, which evokes that year's model with other authentic features.

Unique Features:
A slightly wider "C"-shaped maple neck, clay-colored dot position inlays
Three-ply mint green pickguard (four-ply tortoiseshell pickguard on 3-Color Sunburst
model)
New American Vintage '63 split single-coil pickup
Lower-mounted finger rest
Vintage-style bridge with threaded steel "barrel" saddles
Flat-top knurled chrome control knobs
Reverse tuners
Chrome pickup and bridge covers
Auxiliary strap button on the back of the headstock, and more.

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by DaveMurietta

The year 1963 marks an important moment in Precision Bass history, because that's when a comfortable new round-laminated rosewood fingerboard first appeared

I'll be honest, that made me giggle.

[dmk]

Originally Posted by DaveMurietta

Here's some specs from a music website for the 63. Don't know how accurate it is. Also has a list price of $2000

http://lamusiconline.blogspot.com/20...issue.html?m=1

The year 1963 marks an important moment in Precision Bass history, because that's when a comfortable new round-laminated rosewood fingerboard first appeared on the bass that started it all. That's here on the new American Vintage '63 Precision Bass, which evokes that year's model with other authentic features.

Unique Features:
A slightly wider "C"-shaped maple neck, clay-colored dot position inlays
Three-ply mint green pickguard (four-ply tortoiseshell pickguard on 3-Color Sunburst
model)
New American Vintage '63 split single-coil pickup
Lower-mounted finger rest
Vintage-style bridge with threaded steel "barrel" saddles
Flat-top knurled chrome control knobs
Reverse tuners
Chrome pickup and bridge covers
Auxiliary strap button on the back of the headstock, and more.

That website has the '58 and '63 Precisions at $2499.99 list and $1999.99 selling price. Ouch!

[thebrain]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I'll be honest, that made me giggle.

Me too.

On a side note, I still can't get over Fender putting the wrong tuners on the '74. That really lost my interest in that model. I'd just have to put some vintage tuners on it if I bought one, cuz that just bothers me. I was really under the impression that this new line up was going to be more accurate than the old AVRIs (and at least the other new reissues look to be). But like I said before, I think the wrong tuners is a much bigger inaccuracy than the 'ol 12th dot spacing of the old models. I wonder if on the new '74 AVRI, they changed the tuners' hole spacing from the vintage specs?

I'm also surprised they are reissuing the '64 J since the Custom Shop already made a bunch of them over 10 or so years. I guess it's just a less expensive version, but I would personally go for a used CS '64 over a new AVRI '64 (for close to the same price).

I seem to be alone here, but I guess I'm just not that impressed with their new Jazz offerings. I think the matching headstocks are cool.. I wonder if they will be standard on the custom colors? I'm guessing they won't be since they weren't on the CS '64s. I'm definitely diggin' the P bass lineup though, and looking forward to hopefully playing them all at the NAMM show in a couple weeks.

[Big Mike Ipp]

musiciansfriend has em all up on their site now, looks like 1999.99 for the 63...I was really jonesing for one but at that price I'm not sure

[One Drop]

Originally Posted by petrus61

As with any production line, since Fender offered sunburst as a standard color in their catalogue, that's what production was geared toward. Ordering a custom color would take the bass out of the regular production line...kind of like when you say "no ketchup" at McDonalds and it holds up everyone else's order.

I would think that is so, combines with the cost of the extra paint needed to cover the whole body, which is consoiderable when talking about a few coats, however thin.

Originally all the bodies were stained yellow, so the only paint needed for a burst was the red and black edging, and even then the red edging did not go all the way around under the P/G.

[Zoomie]

2,0000.00 is painful to say the least. Does that mean that they are going to ask in excess of that for the 64 Jazz ?

GRRRR !

[nubs]

Originally Posted by Zoomie

2,0000.00 is painful to say the least. Does that mean that they are going to ask in excess of that for the 64 Jazz ?

GRRRR !

MF has it listed for $2199.00

[Zoomie]

Originally Posted by nubs

MF has it listed for $2199.00

I feel violated !

At these prices, I better hear "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" every single time that I play a note.

I may escape unscathed in all of this as they are making the neck slightly bigger. The AVRI's are about as big a neck as I like. I do not like chunky tree trunks. Even my five is wide but flat.

Still, I better pedal a little faster at the rock pile to generate some additional income.

You are F ing up my 50th Birthday Fender !