New Fender American Vintage Series - Waiting Room

[Flymo Wang]

count yourselves lucky folks - we get properly screwed over in the UK with Fender pricing. american standard precisions work out at over $1,800 and the list price for the new AV 63 P bass is over $2,700...

imagine how much fun we're having looking at these pictures then seeing the prices!!!

[petrus61]

Yep, there's still plenty of older AVRI's to be had and they are a bargain compared to these. The changes simply don't justify the price jump for me. I personally like the tinted necks much better. They especially seem to suit the late 50's models better, IMO.

[jwj1701]

would love to feel the thinner nut and neck on the jazzes. I would rock the '64 lake placid blue with matching headstock. (they could have matched headstocks on others. just sayin'). But i'm also glad they're so expensive, that should keep me out of a little less debt. Anyone suspicious that fender may have sold quite a few James Johnston Squire basses with the matching blue headstock that they tried it again with the vintage series?

[David281189]

Originally Posted by Flymo Wang

count yourselves lucky folks - we get properly screwed over in the UK with Fender pricing. american standard precisions work out at over $1,800 and the list price for the new AV 63 P bass is over $2,700...

imagine how much fun we're having looking at these pictures then seeing the prices!!!

what are you talking about?
thomann uk cyberstore has the american standard jazz and precision basses for 1160-1300 pounds. yes it is a price increase from the last year...but prices have been pretty stable for the american standard basses since 2008. 2008 an american standard had a price tag of around 1190 euros, 2012 it was 1250 euros, now with the custom shop pickups in the new american standaer line since 2012 the price increased to 1350 euros, for the 4 strings, but they were upgraded with custom shop pickups. that's totally fair IMO!
everyone always throws around with list prices...no one cares about them, no one pays the actually list price...it's always lower at a store...MSRP= list price and NOT street price.

for example the new Fender select jazz bass with active electronics, released last week i think, has a MSRP of 3099$ or something around that. thomann uk cyberstore has it for 1999 euros or 1662 pounds. that's a fair price.

i bought a sadowsky metro 4 string, alder body/rosewood fingerboard in 2008. It was a new one and the price was 1890 euros , if i buy the exact same model today at the same shop it costs 2580 euros. that's a big price increase in 4 years in my opinion.

there is really no reason to complain about a slight price increase in my opinion. it's not a cheap bass that's true, but you get something for that price tag.

[Flymo Wang]

i agree with you on the american standards, they are good value and i'm probably going to buy one in 2013. i just feel a bit annoyed sometimes that fenders are so much more expensive in the UK that you can buy them for in the states...

[ShowLow]

We are all brothers here. I think we are commiserating, not complaining...yet I feel for those on the other side of the pond. I shudder to think how dear these will be Down Under. Um, did someone forget to tell Fender there's a global recession on?

[mr.mow]

Originally Posted by ShowLow

We are all brothers here. I think we are commiserating, not complaining...yet I feel for those on the other side of the pond. I shudder to think how dear these will be Down Under. Um, did someone forget to tell Fender there's a global recession on?

We didn't get your recession down here!
But yeah 20-30% increase means street on these will prob be $2400 ($2500US?).. Which is still cheaper than an AVRI was 3 years ago (big price drops)

[zortation]

Wonder what the truss rod adjustment will be like on the '74...better not be lousy!

[David281189]

Originally Posted by mr.mow

We didn't get your recession down here!
But yeah 20-30% increase means street on these will prob be $2400 ($2500US?).. Which is still cheaper than an AVRI was 3 years ago (big price drops)

street price in europe will be more like 2000-2200 euros. the select active jazz bass is about 2000 euros and has pretty much the same MSRP $ as the new american vintage basses.

about global recessions....the worst years are over, at least for the U.S. 2009-2011 was really a struggle. the next years will be better and 2014 or 2015 everything will be much better. the big problem for the U.S was the financial crisis which is pretty much over now. There is a debt crisis in Europe, but it becoming a little better other the last few months and the outlook is not that bad...but things don't change drastically over night. it always takes a few years, but europe is on a much better track now than it was 4 years ago. same with the U.S.

[Britbonic]

A little disappointed in the pricing and models chosen but not a total surprise. When you could find the right one, the older AVs were really a steal relative the more boutique builders or the mostly overpriced CS stuff. I bought a 57 AVRI a couple years ago new for about $1200. It's the lightest bass I own at just over 8lbs, has fantastic build quality and sounds and plays amazing. Also have an 83 Fullerton Jazz and 52 RI Tele - all great instruments.

I don't see that these older ones will suddenly go up in value. Fender has been building them for 30 years and there's an awful lot of them out there. Should still be able to get a pretty good deal.

I've been really jonesing for a jazz with blocks and 70s spacing. Not really sure why these are more than all the others. IIRC the AV62 and 75s were about $1500 street. That's a lot of $$ for blocks and binding.

[P Bass Legend]

Look at 1:32: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sofOwH8ajuY

Looks like they finally got the pickup covers right (more squared). I plan ongetting one.

[P Bass Legend]

Originally Posted by Flymo Wang

count yourselves lucky folks - we get properly screwed over in the UK with Fender pricing. american standard precisions work out at over $1,800 and the list price for the new AV 63 P bass is over $2,700...

imagine how much fun we're having looking at these pictures then seeing the prices!!!

You're lucky you don't live in Brazil. I had to pay about $3000 for my ÄVRI 62'

[sigmafloyd]

Looks like the bridge covers actually have the mutes, which is cool. The 58 in that video sounds great

[JTE]

Originally Posted by petrus61

As with any production line, since Fender offered sunburst as a standard color in their catalogue, that's what production was geared toward. Ordering a custom color would take the bass out of the regular production line...kind of like when you say "no ketchup" at McDonalds and it holds up everyone else's order.

Not really in the past. The "custom" colors in the past were really production colors. If a dealer ordered a CAR Jazz, they didn't pull a body off the line and spray it, they waited until they had orders for about 80 CAR jazzes. Then they'd build 100.

John

[Joseph12]

c'mon folks, sure the prices have gone up but why would you pay $2k for the '58 (for example) just because MFriend has it listed that way in their brand new listing?

MFriend regularly has 15% off (and occasionally 20%, i've seen it).
Don't you think $1,700 wil be more 'real world' for the '58?...shop well and you might be able to do better, perhaps $1,600.

I don't think you'd have to pay $1,999 unless you absolutely couldn't wait to order it, but why would you have to do that?

Be patient.

[P Bass Legend]

The new basses look pretty good, etc. But I would still love to see the 62 and 57 P's available with the same price they were, even though they had their inaccuracies.

[Shadi]

I think Fender has some incorrect information on their website...they say the 74 Jazz has a bullet truss rod...but in the photos there isn't one...

[nubs]

Originally Posted by Joseph12

c'mon folks, sure the prices have gone up but why would you pay $2k for the '58 (for example) just because MFriend has it listed that way in their brand new listing?

MFriend regularly has 15% off (and occasionally 20%, i've seen it).
Don't you think $1,700 wil be more 'real world' for the '58?...shop well and you might be able to do better, perhaps $1,600.

I don't think you'd have to pay $1,999 unless you absolutely couldn't wait to order it, but why would you have to do that?

Be patient.

exactly, then how many other companys "price match" and you can always find somewhere that will beat the price......

[A-Step-Towards]

Originally Posted by Joseph12

c'mon folks, sure the prices have gone up but why would you pay $2k for the '58 (for example) just because MFriend has it listed that way in their brand new listing?

MFriend regularly has 15% off (and occasionally 20%, i've seen it).
Don't you think $1,700 wil be more 'real world' for the '58?...shop well and you might be able to do better, perhaps $1,600.

I don't think you'd have to pay $1,999 unless you absolutely couldn't wait to order it, but why would you have to do that?

Be patient.

Your forgetting something.

The 62's and 57's were $1500 and this 15-20% off could be applied towards those as well.

The fact you can get a % off doesnt really matter, we always could. The fact is the 57 P bass is now a 58 and the only really change is the neck isnt tinted, the decal is slightly different and they spaced the twelth fret dots differently, honestly I cant even tell the dots arent spaced to vintage specs on my 57', its freaking dots. I also way rather have the tint to the neck, then that white stick on the 58's.

The fact is there was a 25% jump in price from the 57 to the 58.

[Mind Eroded]

judging from all the stock pics and demo video that fender has released, its really a shame to me how "satiny" and unfinished the fretboard looks on the new '58(as others have echoed)..it does not look glossy at all...

there was something about that laquery 'vintage' tint that looked so amazing on the '57 reissue...its sorely missing from the '58 IMO. Some people on here have said the untinted neck is closer to how p bass necks actually looked in the late 50's though..Due to the yellowy/orange look of the '57 reissue neck, thats always how I pictured and imagined a P bass neck coming out of the factory in 1957/8..guess I was wrong

I wonder how the new RI necks will feel and I can't wait for people here to start pickin em up and posting real pics.