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01-16-2013, 01:20 AM
|  | Waiting For The Worms | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Torrance, CA | | | thing is they didn't tint the necks in the old days, the lacquer aged to that colour. | 
01-16-2013, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DeliriumTremens thing is they didn't tint the necks in the old days, the lacquer aged to that colour. | +1!
i like the new models much better. they are really reissues now. with the mounted covers, mutes, untinted (correctly so) necks, resolved inaccuracies.
ill definitely pick one up as soon as i can afford it. | 
01-16-2013, 05:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Belgium (Europe) | | | left-handed american vintage models in 2013??? The strat and tele models are available as a lefty. Unfortunately not the basses... again... or should I be patient and hope they will appear on the website soon???
If period correct they should be available as a left-handed model as well! | 
01-16-2013, 06:10 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Step-Towards Your forgetting something.
The 62's and 57's were $1500 and this 15-20% off could be applied towards those as well.
The fact you can get a % off doesnt really matter, we always could. The fact is the 57 P bass is now a 58 and the only really change is the neck isnt tinted, the decal is slightly different and they spaced the twelth fret dots differently, honestly I cant even tell the dots arent spaced to vintage specs on my 57', its freaking dots. I also way rather have the tint to the neck, then that white stick on the 58's.
The fact is there was a 25% jump in price from the 57 to the 58. | The more I think about it, the more upsetting it is. Wish they would have just left the year designations alone and added a couple colors and maybe another model or two. I am a traditionalist but those plain Jane necks on the 58's just don't look good...I personally don't care whether they looked that way in the late 50's, the tint simply looks better, IMO. I could have lived with a $1700-$1800 price tag, but $2000 is just too much for why is being offered here.
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01-16-2013, 06:13 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | | Another thing is, I worry that with the deluge of new models, Fender may begin to lose focus on the QC of the core American models. But that's my paranoia talking since I'm eyeballing an AmStd. I just hope quality stays consistent as it has since '08 and they don't start making up for a lack of it with 10,000 new models and features (S1 switch, anyone?)
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01-16-2013, 06:14 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sheepshead bay, Brooklyn, NYC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by petrus61 The more I think about it, the more upsetting it is. Wish they would have just left the year designations alone and added a couple colors and maybe another model or two. I am a traditionalist but those plain Jane necks on the 58's just don't look good...I personally don't care whether they looked that way in the late 50's, the tint simply looks better, IMO. | +1...that sums it up for me too | 
01-16-2013, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by petrus61 The more I think about it, the more upsetting it is. Wish they would have just left the year designations alone and added a couple colors and maybe another model or two. I am a traditionalist but those plain Jane necks on the 58's just don't look good...I personally don't care whether they looked that way in the late 50's, the tint simply looks better, IMO. I could have lived with a $1700-$1800 price tag, but $2000 is just too much for why is being offered here. | I'd take a better looking bass over a vintage-correct reissue anyday! I really love the vintage tint on the old AVRIs, they look like a great piece of wood covered with a delicious golden honey.
There's only 2 things that I really like better on the new AVRI: The more squared ashtrays and the clay dots. | 
01-16-2013, 10:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | This just got posted on my YouTube Fender sub. American Vintage Series. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESz0DAVYh9I
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01-16-2013, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tastybasslines | They sound great (and look great)... Michael Rhodes and Amos Heller in particular sound awesome on their instruments.
Just wish they were CHEAPER.
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01-16-2013, 10:58 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Not to derail the thread, but Michael Rhodes sounds amazing. People seem to knock the stock Fender roundwound trings, but these sound great. Maybe the tone is in the fingers. I wish we knew more about what he was playing through as that is pretty much the perfect P bass tone for me.
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01-16-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sigmafloyd Not to derail the thread, but Michael Rhodes sounds amazing. People seem to knock the stock Fender roundwound trings, but these sound great. Maybe the tone is in the fingers. I wish we knew more about what he was playing through as that is pretty much the perfect P bass tone for me. | Michael Rhodes always sounds great. Nice video, Fender!
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01-16-2013, 11:10 AM
|  | aka Marc or Marky Potatoes | | Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY, United States | | Quote:
Originally Posted by sigmafloyd Not to derail the thread, but Michael Rhodes sounds amazing. People seem to knock the stock Fender roundwound trings, but these sound great. Maybe the tone is in the fingers. I wish we knew more about what he was playing through as that is pretty much the perfect P bass tone for me. | Michael Rhodes sounded like he was playing flats, judging by the, er.... "dwerpy"ness of his tone. Listen to when he plays the fast stuff then the three note barre. Sounds flatty to me.
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01-16-2013, 11:18 AM
| | | | First of all I would like to say I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I don't really understand a lot of the remarks about this new series regarding the price. Ok 2000$ is a lot of money, but I can't imagine how you can judge these prices based on a pictures and some specifications on a website. If you see all the series fender updated the last year the quality IMO has gone up. The american standards blew everyone away, the road worns blew everyone away. Especially these last ones were shot down because they were "to expensive" for MIM basses, and they were just like the classic series but with a messed up finish. When people started to share their experiences with these basses we learned that there was more to the road worns then just a classic series bass with a messed up finish. When I got to play the road worns I learned in person that the buzz was with a reason. these were the only new fenders that came close to the sound of real vintage instruments. You can't say this about the classic series. If Fender is going to continue in this trend, the new american vintage series are going to amaze a lot of people.
I wouldn't be surprised If they would lean closer to the custom shop instruments than the current american vintage series. IMO it was necessary to update and improve the american vintage series, because I was alwas dissapointed when I played an american vintage bass from the current series. Especially in comparison to the current american standard series. I thought they were really to expensive for the quality you got. Buying a current series now for a cheaper price will be a good deal, but I wouldn't be suprised the new series will be a lot better.
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01-16-2013, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ggvicviper Michael Rhodes sounded like he was playing flats, judging by the, er.... "dwerpy"ness of his tone. Listen to when he plays the fast stuff then the three note barre. Sounds flatty to me. | I thought so too, but judging by the lack of silks, I doubt he is. I would assume that he would be using Fender flats if he was. The only flats that i know of without silks would be DRs, and I would be surprised if he had made the switch just for the demo.
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01-16-2013, 11:23 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: US | | | I think the recently retired American Vintage basses were very nice, and pretty close to custom shop quality already. I can't see where the new ones will be any better, but only slightly more period correct -- and of course the cool new colors.
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01-16-2013, 11:26 AM
| | | | Yeeeaaaaa I'll be getting that '64 Jazz.
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01-16-2013, 11:37 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Ernie Ball MusicMan Guitars | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York and Philadelphia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by sigmafloyd I thought so too, but judging by the lack of silks, I doubt he is. I would assume that he would be using Fender flats if he was. The only flats that i know of without silks would be DRs, and I would be surprised if he had made the switch just for the demo. | He said the MUTE was under the cover
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01-16-2013, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by king_biscuit I think the recently retired American Vintage basses were very nice, and pretty close to custom shop quality already. I can't see where the new ones will be any better, but only slightly more period correct -- and of course the cool new colors. | Pretty much this. | 
01-16-2013, 12:39 PM
|  | Don't want no treble. | | Join Date: May 2012 Location: Long Beach CA | | | Like the video, thanks for posting.
I cannot imagine a more kick-*** Fender than my new 2012 AVRI '62 Jazz. It cost me a LOT less than these puppies. As for American Standards, they are going for $800 give or take, mint condition, in the Classifieds. The new AVRIs are cool but...there are other choices at way more compelling prices. Including the higher end MIMs!
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01-16-2013, 12:39 PM
|  | aka Marc or Marky Potatoes | | Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY, United States | | Musicians Friend is selling the maple AVRI '74 Jazz for $2400. That is insane. You can get a real '74 for less. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/...e-74-jazz-bass
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