New Fender American Vintage Series - Waiting Room

[backup]

Originally Posted by Zoomie

No one really knows if and when anything is being done, although with the deep discounts on the AVRI's, it's clear that something is happening.

With that said, we'll probably know no later than January as companies often release info during or just prior to winter NAMM.

I grabbed one of the fire-saled 62 AVRI P's because at under 1000.00, it was impossible to pass up.

sThat said, if any of the New American Vintage series shows up with a painted headstock in CAR or LPB, or worse, something is sporting Sherwood green, my checkbook doesn't stand a chance.

i envy you! in europe i cant find no place that adopted the discount. most shops dont have it in stock and when they do its still aroudn 2500$

[backup]

fender has removed the AVRI P from their product list. the jazz is still there. too bad i wanted to know what the stock strings on the AVRI P 62 are? fender rounds or flats?

[sigmafloyd]

They come with rounds, I think 7250? Check another string through bridge P bass, should be the same.

[ggvicviper]

I could go for a '70 or '73 Fretless P.

[Tvrtko]

Originally Posted by garak7

Like this? I had one stolen in 1976 and still haven't recovered from the loss. But yes, I would love to be able to get another one. what a great color combination.

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Get yourself Squire P VM Amber. They are saying it's comparable to the old one.

[P Bass Legend]

Originally Posted by backup

fender has removed the AVRI P from their product list. the jazz is still there. too bad i wanted to know what the stock strings on the AVRI P 62 are? fender rounds or flats?

They come with Fender® USA Super Bass 7250ML, NPS, (.045, .065, .080, .100 Gauges)

[Lowbrow]

1966 olympic white slab-body precision w/ maple board at ~8lbs. They make the RWs light, they can do it for the AVRIs.

[thebrain]

I'm hoping for a late '60s/early 70s Jazz avri. Maybe even one of each with the different pickup spacing! And i really want to see some custom colors besides white and black - and MATCHING HEADSTOCKS!!

I never understood.. of all the years to choose from, why did they pick the '75 jazz to reissue? Not's that it's a bad bass, but reissuing the 3-bolt neck really symbolizes the downfall of Fender in the '70s. It was their worst era in the history of the company! It's like some one at Fender said, "when did or jazz basses go to crap? Ya lets reissue that year!" Just MHO.

[DeliriumTremens]

Originally Posted by thebrain

I'm hoping for a late '60s/early 70s Jazz avri. Maybe even one of each with the different pickup spacing! And i really want to see some custom colors besides white and black - and MATCHING HEADSTOCKS!!

I never understood.. of all the years to choose from, why did they pick the '75 jazz to reissue? Not's that it's a bad bass, but reissuing the 3-bolt neck really symbolizes the downfall of Fender in the '70s. It was their worst era in the history of the company! It's like some one at Fender said, "when did or jazz basses go to crap? Ya lets reissue that year!" Just MHO.

There's nothing wrong with the 3 bolt neck when done right like it is on the reissues.

[bassadicct]

mid to late 60's jazz with dots and binding

[thebrain]

Originally Posted by DeliriumTremens

There's nothing wrong with the 3 bolt neck when done right like it is on the reissues.

That's your opinion. But the 70s are known for inconsistently loose neck pockets and the 3 bolts just made neck shifting even worse. I'm sure the 75avri has good quality control, but I'm just saying why choose a year that the majority of Fender collectors don't particularly like? Even the price between an original 74 4-bolt jazz and a 75 3-bolt is a $500+ difference in todays market simply because of the 3-bolt/bullet truss system.

[RS]

Originally Posted by thebrain

That's your opinion.

And mine. I've owned 3 and they were all very nicely built basses.

[narud]

Originally Posted by thebrain

That's your opinion. But the 70s are known for inconsistently loose neck pockets and the 3 bolts just made neck shifting even worse. I'm sure the 75avri has good quality control, but I'm just saying why choose a year that the majority of Fender collectors don't particularly like? Even the price between an original 74 4-bolt jazz and a 75 3-bolt is a $500+ difference in todays market simply because of the 3-bolt/bullet truss system.

are fender collectors basing their opinions on rational playability concerns? ive never had any of my old 3 bolt jazzes ive owned over the years shift any more than a 4 bolt. with normal use, ive never had a neck shift at all. ive had it happen when my bass in a gig back took a nasty fall but thats not typical use.

[DeliriumTremens]

Having owned a 3 bolt neck Fender I can say it didn't shift at all. Those crappy ones from the late '70s would have shifted with 6 bolts in there. No one complains about their old G&L or Musicman 3 bolt necks shifting in the pocket. Again, if it is properly constructed there is no problem with the 3 bolt system

[sven kalmar]

White 59P rosewood and anodized alu, sounds nice...

[sigmafloyd]

Originally Posted by sven kalmar

White 59P rosewood and anodized alu, sounds nice...

Same for me 100%

[thebrain]

I said in my first post that I'm not saying the 75 avri is a bad bass. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the 3 bolt system they have. I'm simply saying, as far as jazz basses go throughout the eras, Fender for some reason choose to reissue the year that a huge percentage of collectors view as the beginning of the downfall of the company and the jazz bass (including myself). And there is a reason that vintage 3 bolt jazzes command a significantly less money than their 4 bolt counterparts -because it wasnt an improvement to the design in most people's eyes.

With that said i own a 77 3 bolt jazz and love it. But i do believe as a whole, 75-early 80s jazz basses are the worst era for jazzes and I've never understood why fender choose that year over the early 70s or mid-late 60s.

[pbassnut]

According to legend, Fender did a limited run of 200 or so Precisions with mahogany bodies and maple/rosewood "C" necks in '62 or '63. I'd love to see them reissue those bad boys!

[9mmMike]

I'd like to see a '59 AV RI. I have two custom shops that I might replace if I could get a nice AV RI of the same "vintage". One of my favorites is a '57 AV RI in ash. A '59 would be nice..maybe in shell pink.

[narud]

Originally Posted by thebrain

I said in my first post that I'm not saying the 75 avri is a bad bass. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the 3 bolt system they have. I'm simply saying, as far as jazz basses go throughout the eras, Fender for some reason choose to reissue the year that a huge percentage of collectors view as the beginning of the downfall of the company and the jazz bass (including myself). And there is a reason that vintage 3 bolt jazzes command a significantly less money than their 4 bolt counterparts -because it wasnt an improvement to the design in most people's eyes.

With that said i own a 77 3 bolt jazz and love it. But i do believe as a whole, 75-early 80s jazz basses are the worst era for jazzes and I've never understood why fender choose that year over the early 70s or mid-late 60s.

a mid to late 60's jazz reissue would be tonally redundant and be merely a cosmetic offering in the line. a 75 reissue at least offers a unique sound and that bass represents a fairly large range of years. heavy ash/maple/70's spaced from 74 to 82 give or take. i dont think these are really aimed at collectors anyway.