New Fender American Vintage Series - Waiting Room - Page 30

thedudebrah · #**581** 01-19-2013, 03:29 AM

I'd LOVE to see the maple neck from the 58 on the sonic blue 63 body with a red tort guard.

I'm actually building a parts bass like that right now...for less than 400 bucks

A-Step-Towards · #**582** 01-19-2013, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by David281189

that was maybe the price recently because they had to sell the ones retailers still had in stock. the years before that i've never seen one under 1500-1600.

Av's were always at $1500 or there about. Retailers were belowing them out for under $1200.

Av's were never $1600. The P basses were $1449.99 , I believe the jazz were maybe $50 more depending on where you shopped, never $1600. I have owned many and watched the prices on them.

bassman_al · #**583** 01-19-2013, 05:47 AM

A-Step knows his stuff, anyone who watches the classifieds knows what I mean! But the overall point seems to be that this new line doesn't seem to have any value beyond the former AV line. Fender seems to be trying to capitalize on the collective GAS that we all know and love.

I'm sure ultimately supply and demand will even out the pricing. Unless there is enough of a buyers market for this new line.

I love Fenders and have always owned at least one, but I have never bought one new. Probably never will, which is also true for other gear I own. It's just too hard to justify that much extra money just to have something brand new. Especially now that I'm really happy with what I have. Ok, I'm done now.
:-)

One Drop · #**584** 01-19-2013, 06:07 AM

I think fender is being intelligent in the way they are repricing and refocusing their line-up. The prices obviously have to go up somewhere, as they aren't exactly coining it bigtime at the moment. It's normal to hide a price increase somewhat by changing or improving a few features, and the prices of some of the better MIM models was too close to the AV line.

Now they have a few price bands in effect that have a little space between them, and the AV series rightly take their place at the top of the ladder. The American Standards remain at a competitive pont for a good US made bass, and they fit perfectly with the majority of Fender players' needs and wants.

The AV becomes more of a niche product, while CS becomes once again mostly a proper custom shop, without the TM series type instruments that were too close to the AV series.

I for one never buy new instruments, so their new prices only interest me insofar as how the resale is affected. I imagine these will go for around 12-1400 used in the near future, which is a great price for what look like absolute killer instruments. At that price I'd buy the red P without blinking.

petrus61 · #**585** 01-19-2013, 09:43 AM

If MF is offering a 15% off when I'm in the market come Febuary, I can have one for $1699.00, sans sales tax. I'm in!

sigmafloyd · #**586** 01-20-2013, 08:32 AM

Not AVRI related, but check out 1:30 into this video for a shot of a mint condition 1959 P bass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kgir...em-subs_digest

boristhespider9 · #**587** 01-23-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vates

The control plate on the blue one does not look properly flush or aligned with the pickguard (and I'd bet the other colors have the same issue). The plate actually looks too small. Many Fenders I've seen have a control plate that is either wider or narrower than the pickguard and/or does not sit flush against the pickguard, leaving a gap. This is a recurring problem with Fender. Fit & finish issue.

My Lakland USA Joe Osborn does not have this issue, so it's possible to do it right. I would have expected Fender to pay attention to this detail at this price point.

petrus61 · #**588** 01-23-2013, 11:48 AM

Bass Central just told me the US Standards are going up to $1399 if anyone cares

bigsnaketex · #**589** 01-23-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by petrus61

Bass Central just told me the US Standards are going up to $1399 if anyone cares

So are my taxes!

joel the bass player · #**590** 01-23-2013, 01:08 PM

It is a new year and that brings new prices. It isn't new. When they redid the American standards a few years ago they brought them out at a high price (like $1500) and the market demanded it go down, which it did. These prices could change a bit, but these days I'm not so sure.

Caca de Kick · #**591** 01-23-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eyecandy

I'm hoping to see a '65-'66 jazz bass i guess.. one that looks like Paul Turner's Jazz bass..

Fender Japan already did it a few years ago; early 66 style with dots and binding, and with matching headstocks in several colors.

Caca de Kick · #**592** 01-23-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boristhespider9

The control plate on the blue one does not look properly flush or aligned with the pickguard (and I'd bet the other colors have the same issue). The plate actually looks too small. Many Fenders I've seen have a control plate that is either wider or narrower than the pickguard and/or does not sit flush against the pickguard, leaving a gap. This is a recurring problem with Fender. Fit & finish issue.

So then it's historically correct.

bigsnaketex · #**593** 01-24-2013, 07:38 AM

I like to remake the control plate out of dimpled chromed steel - they look so much cooler.

I can't quite allow a completely "stock" bass to be played in my hands!!

sigmafloyd · #**594** 01-24-2013, 07:40 AM

the 64 Jazz in white is making me question my P bass loyalty. I played a white/rosewood MIM jazz for the first 15 years I played. Perhaps I need to return to my first love.

bigsnaketex · #**595** 01-24-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmafloyd

the 64 Jazz in white is making me question my P bass loyalty. I played a white/rosewood MIM jazz for the first 15 years I played. Perhaps I need to return to my first love.

There are "no rules"!

You can have both.............I surely do!!

I have one of everything and enjoy each and every one of them. I play my P-Bass 90% of the time but I do break out the Jazz, Tele, Aerodyne, Stingray, etc from time to time just to be different!

There is no need to be "stuck" with anything!!

Let your freak-flag fly my brother!!!

sigmafloyd · #**596** 01-24-2013, 07:55 AM

hahaha, I know. For some reason I feel the need to have 'the one'.

petrus61 · #**597** 01-24-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmafloyd

the 64 Jazz in white is making me question my P bass loyalty. I played a white/rosewood MIM jazz for the first 15 years I played. Perhaps I need to return to my first love.

I know! That LPB has me thinking the same way. I'm a P guy, but I've been stuck with jazz's since my big sell off last year. I try like hell to like them and I can make them work but I know at heart they just can't do what a P can...but they look so damn good!

bigsnaketex · #**598** 01-24-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by petrus61

I know! That LPB has me thinking the same way. I'm a P guy, but I've been stuck with jazz's since my big sell off last year. I try like hell to like them and I can make them work but I know at heart they just can't do what a P can...but they look so damn good!

The Jazz does have "the look" - and man, do I wish I could make it work with the chrome pickup/bridge guards attached but I'll be darned if I can figure out how to play them with all that stuff in the way!! Also, I have huge hands and that narrow nut doesn't work so well for me doing my thing - but I can manage with a pick.

Whatever your opinion of Fender is.....you have to admit that they are the iconic look of the electric bass guitar.

petrus61 · #**599** 01-24-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsnaketex

The Jazz does have "the look" - and man, do I wish I could make it work with the chrome pickup/bridge guards attached but I'll be darned if I can figure out how to play them with all that stuff in the way!! Also, I have huge hands and that narrow nut doesn't work so well for me doing my thing - but I can manage with a pick.

Whatever your opinion of Fender is.....you have to admit that they are the iconic look of the electric bass guitar.

I actually like to have the pickup cover on a jazz, just not the bridge cover because it hinders plucking in that "burpy" area by the bridge. The pickup cover makes a nice anchor for slapping and pick playing. It's the opposite on a P for me, where I prefer the bridge cover because you can insert mutes and use it as a great anchor for pick playing (if that's your thing)

ShowLow · #**600** 01-24-2013, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmafloyd

the 64 Jazz in white is making me question my P bass loyalty. I played a white/rosewood MIM jazz for the first 15 years I played. Perhaps I need to return to my first love.

Sigma, I have turned out to be an equal-opportunity bassist. For every P there is a J. And did I mention that those AVRIs are to die for? So go for it! Once the price stabilizes that is.

Right now I have an odd number of basses. Which means I need to sell one. No, buy. No no no, sell...