New Fender American Vintage Series - Waiting Room

[rmars]

Originally Posted by slick_tu

The same thing on each of my CSs. I guess the finish is still a little soft when they are mounted, or nitro is always a little soft no matter how long you wait.

I've done a few nitro finishes and it is quite soft compared to other finishes. Fender may have a way of making it cure quicker but the ones I've done have to sit 30-90 days before you can polish the clear coat. I've been told that nitro takes years before it fully cures or "gasses off".

Some times very slight indents will look better after time as the finish is continues to cure and shrink, heat will sometimes speed this up but please don't take a hair dryer to your guitar thinking it will pull the dent out! LOL! I had a J bass body hanging in my hot garage for about a week or two in the hot summer and noticed the imprint from the control plate was much less noticeable when I went to reassemble the instrument.

[Pet Sounds]

Originally Posted by bushwhacker

Whoa,cowboy. I am buying one just because of the ashtray and tugbar. Well, also the radius on the neck and the size of the frets. Embrace the 60's! When I started playing in 1968 these were all standard. I love my 66 p and 62 avri j and just wanted to get a P as close as I could to my alpha bass. I am glad you enjoy your vintage, it is really lovely, but I am happy they mounted my covers.

+1. Why have a '60s reissue that doesn't look like a '60s bass?

[slick_tu]

Originally Posted by bushwhacker

Whoa,cowboy. I am buying one just because of the ashtray and tugbar. Well, also the radius on the neck and the size of the frets. Embrace the 60's! When I started playing in 1968 these were all standard. I love my 66 p and 62 avri j and just wanted to get a P as close as I could to my alpha bass. I am glad you enjoy your vintage, it is really lovely, but I am happy they mounted my covers.

Originally Posted by Pet Sounds

+1. Why have a '60s reissue that doesn't look like a '60s bass?

I agree with both; although, I take them on and off as the mood strikes me. Sometimes, just having the holes is cool.

[ShowLow]

Originally Posted by sigmafloyd

Cool. The fact that it comes with an extra set if flats too is awesome

About $25-30 worth of awesome. Still doesn't take away the pain of the price increase IMHO.

They sure are purty though...sigh...

[Zoomie]

Originally Posted by ShowLow

....... Still doesn't take away the pain of the price increase IMHO.

They sure are purty though...sigh...

I hear you, Show. I had an absolute fit on pricing as I was planning to grab the 63 P and a Jazz. So much so, that I am investing in a single Fender and heading for high end land.

In the end I beat the price down on the 63 to 1648.00. Put my 62 AVRI up which lasted a whole 3 hours in the classifieds. I was in it dirt cheap so all went well there.

I gave Fender the finger on the Jazz and am about to throw some more money on the fire to grab a pair of Dingwalls.
I feel like price versus quality is more equal.

62's are being sucked up in the classifieds. Jump if you're going to jump and can't live without the 63.

[backup]

more pictures please!!! case candy, pick ups etc etc

[gwangi]

Did anybody get a '63 Precision in Seminole Red yet and please have pic's.

[gwangi]

Actually I'm jonesing for either the Seminole Red or the Sonic Blue for the '63 Precision Bass.

[atomicdog]

Originally Posted by Zoomie

I hear you, Show. I had an absolute fit on pricing as I was planning to grab the 63 P and a Jazz. So much so, that I am investing in a single Fender and heading for high end land.

In the end I beat the price down on the 63 to 1648.00. Put my 62 AVRI up which lasted a whole 3 hours in the classifieds. I was in it dirt cheap so all went well there.

I gave Fender the finger on the Jazz and am about to throw some more money on the fire to grab a pair of Dingwalls.
I feel like price versus quality is more equal.

62's are being sucked up in the classifieds. Jump if you're going to jump and can't live without the 63.

How much did ya get for your 62? Thinking about selling mine.

[D Bopp]

I just pulled the trigger on a burst 58 P. Will take pics when it arrives. I have a 62 RI in black that I'll compare it to. May put the 62 up for sale if the 58 lives up to its hype!

[P Bass Legend]

stop posting pictures, please, it is really making me wanna buy one of these XD

[markorbit]

I want a Sunburst 63 if the burst looks like a 60s P bass. A few pics I've seen show a stronger yellow burst which would suit me fine. I hope the neck is similar to the 62RI which was very wide and flat. The Pino, which is supposedly based on a '63, is more chunky. I prefer the slimmer '62.

[sigmafloyd]

Originally Posted by gwangi

Did anybody get a '63 Precision in Seminole Red yet and please have pic's.

+1

[petrus61]

Can any owners give a close shot of the the fingerboard from a few angles? From the Sweetwater pics, it really doesn't look like the veneer boards I have seen and played on real 60's era Fenders. I only ask because it seems to be one of the selling points on the new models.

[P Bass Legend]

I find something quite interesting about the new sunburst finishes.

Left: a 1966 Custom Telecaster with the "target 'burst" style sunburst. Starting in mid-1964, Fender sprayed the yellow part of the sunburst. This allowed Fender to be less picky with their choice of Alder, because the sunburst is less transparent.
Right: a 1959 Custom Telecaster with the old style Fender sunburst. Prior to 1964, Fender stained the yellow of the sunburst into the wood, instead of spraying it. This saved a spray step when shooting a sunburst finish.

So, looks like the new sunburst finish is right only for the 64' Jazz Bass , and not for the 63' Precison Bass. Can somebody confirm this? Looks like the most accurate sunburst finish for the 63' would have been the same as the old 62'.


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By the way, looks like they got the case a bit off as well, not a deal breaker since I find this new cream with black ends cases pretty badass, but I think some people (most future buyers) might be interested to know about this inaccuracies.

All the info was taken from: http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fender.html

[backup]

i think the new cases have dark brown ends. so i dont really see the inaccuracy here, or do you mean something else?
about the finish, thats interesting

[One Drop]

Most of those era's cases had very dark brown ends, check pictures in the Fender Illustrated History book. That link above is a good resource but there are many small inaccuracies and much more detailed information has come into the public domain since it was created, due to the real experts sharing info on a few good sites. like the once great but now much less so FDP.

The deeper you look into vintage Fenders the more anomalies and variances you end up seeing. Lots of so-called experts popping up after perusing a site or two, not sure what the motivation is to tear these beautiful instruments apart at their release. No re-issue will ever satisfy everyone, but I think these are lovely instruments into which a lot of care has gone into the creation, and they are definitely closer to the originals than any previous offerings.

Call me a fanboy, but I believe the old AV series has drifted away over the years from the feel and sound of the early ones, which remind me more of the real thing than later iterations. If these are closer to the Fullertons and the real thing in sound and feel then they have done a good job with them.

If you want 100% accuracy, buy the real thing. They will never again be as inexpensive as they are now, otherwise accept that Fender is a modern company in the business of making money, and marketing and pricing is a complex exercise that will never allow a company of this size to create instruments that will satisfy a true collector or expert seeking 100% accuracy. I'm all for discussing the finer points but I see a lot of bitterness and sniping, often unfounded, that I have trouble understanding the underlying motivation for.

There are people that will build you a virtually undetectable copy (for way more than a fender AV will cost), but these will eventually end up being sold to unwary buyers down the line as the real thing. I for one am glad there are some minor differences, there are enough fakes out there in circulation already.

[slick_tu]

Originally Posted by markorbit

...I hope the neck is similar to the 62RI which was very wide and flat. The Pino, which is supposedly based on a '63, is more chunky. I prefer the slimmer '62.

The new AVRI '62 P I received last week doesn't have the noticeably flat neck that my one of two years ago had (still 1 3/4" nut), so maybe Fender is getting away from those very flat necks. Were the very flat necks found on real '62s & '63s? My CS '59 & '60 Ps' necks are not real flat either.


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[PJRL]

I'd love to see pics of your new 2013 AVRI Basses !

[PJRL]

Originally Posted by kobass

I'm no Fender historian, so I can't answer about the cutaways. Since you guys were so supportive, I took some quick pics.

Please keep in mind, the lighting is not the greatest, I didn't use a tripod, and the protective film is still on the pickguard. Once I get to spend some more time with her, I'll take better pics. She looks MUCH better in person!

Very nice !!