New Fender American Vintage Series - Waiting Room

[Mastermold]

Originally Posted by A-Step-Towards

Wow so these are going to be around the $2,000 mark more the likely.

That's a reasonable prediction.

[P Bass Legend]

I see a lot of new American Vintage Strats going for $2299 on ebay, expect the new basses to cost something like that.

[Mastermold]

Originally Posted by P Bass Legend

I see a lot of new American Vintage Strats going for $2299 on ebay, expect the new basses to cost something like that.

That's steep. About $500 more buys a CS:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PBas59SNM3SB

[P Bass Legend]

Originally Posted by Mastermold

That's steep. About $500 more buys a CS:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PBas59SNM3SB

Yeah, but what is really sad, is the fact that a few months ago you could get a really good american made Fender reissue for something like $1400, now you will have to pay MUCH more for basically the same bass.

It won't affect me because I bought my AVRI 62 not long time ago, but it's really sad to see that if someone want an american reissue, they will have to pay much more than I did to have basically the same bass than I have.

[Nahguavkire]

Ok... Fretless 60's P/J Precision with Jazz neck like the one Juan Alderete plays. I would buy one without a shadow of a doubt. Actually more fretless RI models in general please.

[sigmafloyd]

Anyone know what the color "SMR" is? That is the 4th color for the '63 P. I assumed it was _ _ Red, but Im not sure. ideas?

[natrontheape]

Originally Posted by P Bass Legend

Yeah, but what is really sad, is the fact that a few months ago you could get a really good american made Fender reissue for something like $1400, now you will have to pay MUCH more for basically the same bass.

It won't affect me because I bought my AVRI 62 not long time ago, but it's really sad to see that if someone want an american reissue, they will have to pay much more than I did to have basically the same bass than I have.

Yep. I'm so glad I got my 62 P back in May. I didn't get it for $900 like the one guy earlier in this thread but I got a fairly good deal. I was on the fence about it but I'm sure glad I jumped. It's a beast.

I am kind of salty that I couldn't snap up a jazz before they were gone but it's kind of liberating really because i'll save about $300 and just get an Am Std Jazz instead. I mainly want one for a more modern alternative to my P anyway but the AVRIs are so nice I was thinking what the hell for a few more bucks.

The thing that really sucks about all this is that I feel like those AVRIs were legacy instruments placed within arms reach of regular dudes at their last price point. Crossing the $2k mark is a big barrier to me. Even though I have lots of $1k guitars, I'm just not spending that much on a single guitar. I'd rather look at used CS if I were going to do that.

[pocketgroove]

Originally Posted by P Bass Legend

I see a lot of new American Vintage Strats going for $2299 on ebay, expect the new basses to cost something like that.

Dear Fender,

You're breaking my heart! I just started saving up with the final goal of a '62 AVRI P...it was at the top end of my price range, but so promising and I've never heard a bad thing about them yet. I was going to take several months' worth of my hard-earned pay, and buy one of your instruments over many other excellent choices on the market, but...you blew it. Oh well. I was only one lowly potential customer, but if the prices are anywhere near expected, then it is time to start scouting different companies.

[metron]

$2300 no way. It will never fly. That might be more accurate for a list price, which of course no one actually pays.

[natrontheape]

Originally Posted by metron

$2300 no way. It will never fly. That might be more accurate for a list price, which of course no one actually pays.

They are doing it on the strats and teles. I am certain they will do the same on basses. There's money to be made. They gonna try an make it.

[j.kernodle]

2300, wow. you're now in mike lull and sadowsky metro territory, not to mention for the first time, more expensive than the average mint used custom shop bass.

[P Bass Legend]

Originally Posted by metron

$2300 no way. It will never fly. That might be more accurate for a list price, which of course no one actually pays.

If they are real jerks, they could just rise the price of the CS basses even more, and make people who can't afford instruments for over $3500 to get the new over-priced AVRI.

At this point, I would rather get a Classic Series 50's mexican P-bass.

[metron]

Originally Posted by natrontheape

They are doing it on the strats and teles. I am certain they will do the same on basses. There's money to be made. They gonna try an make it.

Indeed a new strat reissue is 2300. Thats an insane price increase for no real upgrade. Watch the reissue line become not so popular.

[Bassmunnky]

Fender prices seem to jump $100 to $200 bucks every year.

The AV 62 stuff...BEFORE the massive blowout discounts in the last month were retailing around $1499. They'll probably be $1699 or $1899 street...like Musicman Classic stuff..that would be my guess, but damn, NAMM is a couple weeks away, so we'll find out for sure...

[Mastermold]

Originally Posted by pocketgroove

Dear Fender,

You're breaking my heart! I just started saving up with the final goal of a '62 AVRI P...it was at the top end of my price range, but so promising and I've never heard a bad thing about them yet. I was going to take several months' worth of my hard-earned pay, and buy one of your instruments over many other excellent choices on the market, but...you blew it. Oh well. I was only one lowly potential customer, but if the prices are anywhere near expected, then it is time to start scouting different companies.

Well the market reality is if they find they can't sell enough of them at a higher price then they'll drop the prices a little until they find their sweet spot.

[D.M.N.]

Have to say, I'm pretty disappointed in these early rumors. Seriously, a 58 and 63 precision? Why even bother. The only real difference it would seem is on the 63, and that's simply the veneer vs. slab, which is just silly. If they wanted to give the line a jolt, they should have included either a 51-56 Precision or, preferably, a 68 Telecaster Bass. The Jazzes, I'm far more happy about. I've been waiting for a Jazz with a BnB neck with the TV logo, one of my favorite looks. I plan on waiting until necks start popping up on Stratosphere on eBay and putting one on my 62 AVRI, even better it has the 4 bolt system and (hopefully) no bullet. I wonder if the Maple neck 74 will have Black or Pearl inlays, what year did that change come into effect? Still though, aside from the Lake Placid Blue and Sonic Blue, the colours are the same old boring selection they have been. Why is it so darned difficult to give more colour options?

Regarding price, it seems that the new AVS line is intended to replace the lower tier Custom Shop production. If you noticed, CS prices have seemed to have jumped recently too, and the new AV strats and teles are filling the price point left vacant. Major bummer, but like many AV fans have been saying, they've pretty much been CS quality at a lower price point for a long time. Guess Fender is just wising up and interested in getting more profit. Pretty glad I picked up my 62 Jazz earlier this year.

[P Bass Legend]

Am I the only one who thinks that this might increase a little bit the price of the current reissues? I mean, the only way to get a 62 P or J bass will be by buying an used AVRI or a CS model.

What do you guys think?

[ShowLow]

Originally Posted by P Bass Legend

Am I the only one who thinks that this might increase a little bit the price of the current reissues? I mean, the only way to get a 62 P or J bass will be by buying an used AVRI or a CS model.

What do you guys think?

[Spock voice] Logical, Captain.

Agree completely.

[petrus61]

Well at $2000, I'm officially priced out of the AVRI market if this is true and looking at the revamped guitars, it's most likely the case. $1500 was a fair price considering the product but for the most part these offerings are window dressing, imo

[Big Mike Ipp]

Originally Posted by sigmafloyd

Anyone know what the color "SMR" is? That is the 4th color for the '63 P. I assumed it was _ _ Red, but Im not sure. ideas?

Seminole Red? Very obscure color if thats it...