New Warmoth PJ assembly - Page 2

joeyl · #21 07-17-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by millsbass5

"For the love of God though, no pickguard if there is no control plate!"-Quote

really, you guys feel that strongly about it?

5string5fingers · #22 07-17-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyl

really, you guys feel that strongly about it?

Who cares? It's your bass you can do whatever the **** you want with it!

line6man · #23 07-17-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyl

really, you guys feel that strongly about it?

Sorry, it looks absolutely terrible to me.
Totally cheap and half-assed looking.

You need to at least bevel the pickguard at the V groove, if you don't reshape it into something that doesn't look like a part is missing in that area.

hachi kid · #24 07-17-2010, 01:15 PM

I need to point out that line6man is SUPER picky about things pretty much all the time. no harm meant, I've gotten to know him and his quirks. personally, I'm about finding a pickguard without the recess for the control plate. it kind of looks cleaner. I also think a rear route jazz looks really good without a pickguard. but it is your bass. if you like how it looks with a standard pickguard, do it!

Xray66 · #25 07-17-2010, 01:19 PM

Yeah, I would get the other guard if you're going to use one.

millsbass5 · #26 07-17-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyl

really, you guys feel that strongly about it?

I mean,it's YOUR bass. Do what you want. But,something just looks outta place with that arrangement. But,who am I to say??

line6man · #27 07-17-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hachi kid

I need to point out that line6man is SUPER picky about things pretty much all the time. no harm meant, I've gotten to know him and his quirks.

Yes, that's true. Anyone whose IM'd with me will know how eccentric I am, and how anything I don't like bothers the crap out of me.

I hope I'm not offending anyone's preference in pickgaurds/control plates, that's just how I get about things.

joeyl · #28 07-17-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by line6man

Sorry, it looks absolutely terrible to me.
Totally cheap and half-assed looking.

You need to at least bevel the pickguard at the V groove, if you don't reshape it into something that doesn't look like a part is missing in that area.

no problem, I personally love hearing your ideas so they don't bother me at all

joeyl · #29 07-17-2010, 04:14 PM

So for the purists:

I had to reshape the V groove to fit the control plates I had, the black line is just the shadow of the plastic wrap on the guard. Now I have the option to either drill a top cavity rout with forstner bits and use a router to clean it, or just use deep threaded pots. What do you guys think? My previous Dinky J had both top and rear control routs and the front cracked because of the weakened structure.

joeyl · #30 07-17-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by millsbass5

I mean,it's YOUR bass. Do what you want. But,something just looks outta place with that arrangement. But,who am I to say??

thanks, the reason I put my assemblies on Talkbass is to get feedback from more people than just my wife and my bandmates

line6man · #31 07-17-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyl

So for the purists:

I had to reshape the V groove to fit the control plates I had, the black line is just the shadow of the plastic wrap on the guard. Now I have the option to either drill a top cavity rout with forstner bits and use a router to clean it, or just use deep threaded pots. What do you guys think? My previous Dinky J had both top and rear control routs and the front cracked because of the weakened structure.

Well, having a top+rear route cavity is pointless unless you've got a preamp and batteries to fill it. I don't like the idea of having a top+rear routed cavity when the rear routing serves no purpose.

Depending on the finish you choose, no control plate and no pickguard would probably look best, IMO.

joeyl · #32 07-17-2010, 04:36 PM

well not in my book because the rear control cavity decreases weight

And it will remain pretty empty since I have sold all my preamps. No more batteries for me.

xoloder · #33 07-17-2010, 04:47 PM

the pickguard AND control plate definitely a more complete look. for some reason, control plate without pickguard looks better (imo) than pickguard without control plate. of course having neither, since you have the rear route, would look sharp. just my personal opinion. and metal flake orange would look killer, btw. subscribed...

pasta4lnch · #34 07-17-2010, 04:52 PM

def like the pg and control plate!

line6man · #35 07-17-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyl

well not in my book because the rear control cavity decreases weight

And it will remain pretty empty since I have sold all my preamps. No more batteries for me.

Well, if you're worried about weight, skip the pickguard and control plate, and just do a regular rear routed bass!

When I converted my Warmoth Jazz from a single bridge pickup bass with a top route to a PJ with top+rear routing, I think I gained about a pound between the three batteries, the P pickup and the heavy metal knobs that I chose.

ThatGermanDude · #36 07-17-2010, 05:04 PM

I like the pickguard no control plate combo. But I would use the same style knobs that AC uses. The strat style ones don't look quite right.

johnk_10 · #37 07-17-2010, 05:21 PM

it look more like it's a "JP" to me. when i think of a "PJ", i think of a p bass body with a j bass pickup routed in the bridge position.

i too don't care for rear routed bodies with a control plate IMO, it's redundant, and looks like an afterthought, but being that i'm a traditionalist, i like jazz bass bodies to be the front routed type (w/stock routes).

joeyl · #38 07-17-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by johnk_10

it look more like it's a "JP" to me. when i think of a "PJ", i think of a p bass body with a j bass pickup routed in the bridge position.

never thought about it this way, good point

pasta4lnch · #39 07-17-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyl

never thought about it this way, good point

I was thinking the same thing.

something about the J pg that looks really funny w/o the control plate. I guess it'd be a little better w/o the notch for the plate . . . I'm w/ JohnK, traditional just looks better imo!

line6man · #40 07-17-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by johnk_10

it look more like it's a "JP" to me. when i think of a "PJ", i think of a p bass body with a j bass pickup routed in the bridge position.

i too don't care for rear routed bodies with a control plate IMO, it's redundant, and looks like an afterthought, but being that i'm a traditionalist, i like jazz bass bodies to be the front routed type (w/stock routes).

No, a "JP" bass would be where you have a J neck pickup and a P bridge pickup.

There is nothing wrong with top+rear routed instruments.
My PJ is top+rear routed. The thing is, you have to actually use the extra space that the rear routing provides. That way it's useful and not strange.