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12-14-2012, 11:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtrslngr I put Classic Bart drop in replacments in my Heir 5 two years ago and still love it. Still with original preamp it holds its own beside my Roscoe. If you are really on a budget, just replace the neck pickup on Heir for amazing improvement. I did the neck pup first and almost decided not to bother with bridge. Best Bass gear has one of my reviews on their site for this experience. | I wish that the MTD guys would just put a better pre-amp in the Heir. If it had sounded as good as the other 5 string I demoed it against, I would have chosen it. Another $100 to $200 wouldn't have killed me.
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12-15-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlzm I wish that the MTD guys would just put a better pre-amp in the Heir. If it had sounded as good as the other 5 string I demoed it against, I would have chosen it. Another $100 to $200 wouldn't have killed me. | The Pickups have more to do with the overall sound of the stock bass than the preamp. I don't know of any import bass that comes with american made Barts. If there is one its probably over 2 grand new.
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12-15-2012, 09:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, California U.S.A. | | | The KZX5 uses American made Bart's and pre and my Mk.1 Saratoga 5 did and those where custom made for that model. It looks like the AG does too. Mike sourced cheaper electronics to keep the price down. The Kingston line would be a bit more expensive.
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12-19-2012, 08:44 PM
| | Registered User Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington) | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Burlington ON Canada | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by SpectorErector Ok - quick tech-question also anyone know if the stock pre-amp system will accept 18v? looking to get a bit more umph out of the instrument before hitting the amp?
Have a good conversion harness at home - just don't want to fry the board on my stock KZ (second is hot-rodded).
I know - can do with a tube-mp or avalon, but trying to keep crap out of my already over-loaded racks.... | I upgraded to 18v on both my KZ & KZX basses...it's alright, go for it!! (If you haven't already that is!!)
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12-19-2012, 09:21 PM
|  | I'm only here for the Afterparty | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego | | | UPDATE: mine needed a new neck.. Dana B Goods hooked me up with a serious upgrade. I swapped the heir neck for a KZX neck! Check it!
Old neck, and new neck
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12-19-2012, 09:22 PM
|  | I'm only here for the Afterparty | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego | | | Sweet grain and MUCH better quality...
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12-20-2012, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gustobassman Sweet grain and MUCH better quality... | Are the dimensions and feel the same.? You switched from rosewood fingerboard to rosewood? Does it sound different? | 
12-20-2012, 10:18 AM
|  | I'm only here for the Afterparty | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Highpost Are the dimensions and feel the same.? You switched from rosewood fingerboard to rosewood? Does it sound different? | The old neck had a stuck truss rod and MAJOR dead spot issues. I called Dana and they said they had a "kingston" neck in stock. It turned out to be the KZX neck. It makes the original korean neck feel like a twig about to snap. The KZX neck is beefy, probably the closest to an american MTD neck as i've felt. Did it change the sound? Considering the old neck had a dead "area" from the 6-10th frets, i would say yes, the sound has definitely changed! There is more definition to the notes, and they just ring fuller.
Yeah, not a maple fan here... rosewood to rosewood..
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12-27-2012, 08:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada | | Just bought an MTD Kingston Saratoga 5-String Fretless. Pretty stoked. Can i get a # please?
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Hipshot Ultralite tuners
Hipshot B bridge
D'Addario Chrome flatwound strings
Misc. black hardware 
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12-27-2012, 09:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Istanbul | | | Wow Nice job, hardluck! Got yourself a beautiful looking bass, hope it sounds and plays beautiful like it looks. Any comments?
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12-27-2012, 10:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | Thank you! I had to get that stock chrome off of it as quick as I could, lol.
The Barts were a huge improvement. I would still like a bit more punch and growl, so maybe someday I'll go active.
This is my first MTD and so far I'm pretty damn impressed. It's beautiful and it sounds great. | 
01-03-2013, 07:40 PM
| | | Here she is......my oooooold, roadworn axe. We've been through a heck of a lot these last ten or so years...shows, long nights playing scales in small rooms, hitchhiking all over Alaska, New York, et al. ... Got the Bartolini last year, certainly a major improvement. The D and G strings are actually audible in the mix now! Been through THREE barrel jacks this year...any ideas on something else entirely to replace? At this point rerouting and going with another style jack entirely is not out of the question...anybody else with some experience here?  | 
01-04-2013, 02:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, California U.S.A. | | Welcome and congrats you are #149! Quote:
Originally Posted by hardluck Just bought an MTD Kingston Saratoga 5-String Fretless. Pretty stoked. Can i get a # please?
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Hipshot Ultralite tuners
Hipshot B bridge
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01-06-2013, 04:10 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kennesaw, GA | | Just got one! My first 5 string  It's new to me, but I'm the third owner so I'm not actually sure what model it is. Anyone here know?
Can I get a number?
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01-06-2013, 05:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ny. nyc | | Quote:
Originally Posted by logans59 Just got one! My first 5 string  It's new to me, but I'm the third owner so I'm not actually sure what model it is. Anyone here know?
Can I get a number? | Mtd heir . 5. These basses are sometimes bought to personalize and remodel. Great catch ,yours is still passive. | 
01-07-2013, 12:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, California U.S.A. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by logans59 Just got one! My first 5 string  It's new to me, but I'm the third owner so I'm not actually sure what model it is. Anyone here know?
Can I get a number? | Woo Hoo! Welcome and Congrats you are #150 !
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01-09-2013, 10:39 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Vandalia, Ohio | | Got a question. Is this just and old k4 or a Artist with 2 knobs or what? 
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01-09-2013, 10:53 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Vandalia, Ohio | | Got a question. Is this just and old k4 or a Artist with 2 knobs or what? Attachment 310060
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01-09-2013, 11:01 AM
|  | Big Bottom-Talk about mud flaps, my girls got 'em MTD Kingston Series Artist | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Springfield, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by gard0300 Got a question. Is this just and old k4 or a Artist with 2 knobs or what? Attachment 310060 | Believe what you are looking at is the original Kingston Model. Have been around for what seems like at least 7 years or perhaps more - and this is must be one of the originals, or close to it.
Have never owned one - But have been told for a passive instrument they have great "growl" and a very meaty tone thanks to the huge MM style P/U. Am looking for one myself in "lefty" - hard to find!
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01-09-2013, 11:20 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Albany, NY | | | I had a passive 5 and it did have a nice growl (regretted selling that one). | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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