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Old 02-29-2012, 10:53 AM
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Sure theyd entertain - how many will you sell
What does it mean, this "sell"?
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OOo!!! I wanted that cherry burst Cirrus so BAD!

Jason P Bass, not sure if you're being serious or facetious. In case you're serious, I think he's just saying that Peavey would consider having you as an endorsee if, by doing so, your endorsement would sell some basses for them. You know, like, if I was endorsee, they would probably sell even less basses. But, if, say, Stanley Clarke was an endorsee, then they might sell an extra 200 basses per year just because he's out there playing them and talking about them.
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OOo!!! I wanted that cherry burst Cirrus so BAD!

Jason P Bass, not sure if you're being serious or facetious. In case you're serious, I think he's just saying that Peavey would consider having you as an endorsee if, by doing so, your endorsement would sell some basses for them. You know, like, if I was endorsee, they would probably sell even less basses. But, if, say, Stanley Clarke was an endorsee, then they might sell an extra 200 basses per year just because he's out there playing them and talking about them.
Oh, ha, I thought he was asking me to sell my own basses.

Anyway, since Peavey has apparently shut down their American production of bass guitars, I will solemnly swear to sell EVERY SINGLE bass they make in the USA.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:37 PM
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Oh, ha, I thought he was asking me to sell my own basses.

Anyway, since Peavey has apparently shut down their American production of bass guitars, I will solemnly swear to sell EVERY SINGLE bass they make in the USA.
I didn`t know that.
Can you confirm it ?
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I didn`t know that.
Can you confirm it ?
No I cannot, but if you check out the product lines at peavey.com, the only MIA-looking candidate is the (brand new) Rudy Sarzo Cirrus. As far as I know, it is not currently for sale.

I asked in another thread if the Rudy Sarzo Cirrus is indeed MIA and received no answer or I didn't see any answer.

If you zoom in on the Millennium headstocks, they all say "BXP" and the price point is way too low for a MIA instrument.

Correct me if I'm making a wrong assumption, but the other basses are not MIA either.

So you might find MIA old stock in stores (online or brick) but the current product lineup appears to contain -possibly- one MIA bass guitar.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:16 AM
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No I cannot, but if you check out the product lines at peavey.com, the only MIA-looking candidate is the (brand new) Rudy Sarzo Cirrus. As far as I know, it is not currently for sale.

I asked in another thread if the Rudy Sarzo Cirrus is indeed MIA and received no answer or I didn't see any answer.

If you zoom in on the Millennium headstocks, they all say "BXP" and the price point is way too low for a MIA instrument.

Correct me if I'm making a wrong assumption, but the other basses are not MIA either.

So you might find MIA old stock in stores (online or brick) but the current product lineup appears to contain -possibly- one MIA bass guitar.
I concur with Jason. Also like Jason, I am basing my finding on the official Peavey website. BXP is on the headstock.
I didn't see the Rudy Sarzo Cirrus for sale either, but in NAMM interviews Rudy said the stringers are made of bamboo, not maple. His idea to go green on the RS Cirrus.

I know they make hardwood floors of bamboo, so I know it's strong, it just doesn't strike me as Cirrus material. I never heard of Alembic using bamboo...

Back to the question, I didn't even see one US made bass from Peavey today. All say BXP . If I remember correctly, the only Cirrus available today is a bolt on BXP.
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I concur with Jason. Also like Jason, I am basing my finding on the official Peavey website. BXP is on the headstock.
I didn't see the Rudy Sarzo Cirrus for sale either, but in NAMM interviews Rudy said the stringers are made of bamboo, not maple. His idea to go green on the RS Cirrus.

I know they make hardwood floors of bamboo, so I know it's strong, it just doesn't strike me as Cirrus material. I never heard of Alembic using bamboo...

Back to the question, I didn't even see one US made bass from Peavey today. All say BXP . If I remember correctly, the only Cirrus available today is a bolt on BXP.
To be fair, Peavey doesn't need to copy Alembic to make a killer Cirrus, IMO. Bamboo is used in Asia for construction scaffolding on skyscrapers, where in the US we would use steel. Hardness and strength are not an issue. How does it sound? I'd love to try it out, but they're not for sale. And if they're built overseas, meh, I'll let politics cloud my unbiased opinion in that case.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:42 AM
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To be fair, Peavey doesn't need to copy Alembic to make a killer Cirrus, IMO. Bamboo is used in Asia for construction scaffolding on skyscrapers, where in the US we would use steel. Hardness and strength are not an issue. How does it sound? I'd love to try it out, but they're not for sale. And if they're built overseas, meh, I'll let politics cloud my unbiased opinion in that case.
Totally agree !! I didn't mean for it to come out that way. I will choose my CIRRUS over my Alembic any day of the week.

That being said, what I meant was that the older USA Cirrus that we know and love are all made of exotic woods that boutique bass companies use, too. Alembic happens to be near me, and they are a household name, so I used their name. My point was, that if bamboo sounded that good, I think Alembic would've used it already.

When I took my Cirrus to Alembic, Mica liked the wood combination. Also a staff member told me after I left my Cirrus there for work that it was an "amazing bass" with killer electronics.
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Totally agree !! I didn't mean for it to come out that way. I will choose my CIRRUS over my Alembic any day of the week.

That being said, what I meant was that the older USA Cirrus that we know and love are all made of exotic woods that boutique bass companies use, too. Alembic happens to be near me, and they are a household name, so I used their name. My point was, that if bamboo sounded that good, I think Alembic would've used it already.

When I took my Cirrus to Alembic, Mica liked the wood combination. Also a staff member told me after I left my Cirrus there for work that it was an "amazing bass" with killer electronics.
Yeah, maybe, but I think that 95% of the exotic wood selections in boutique instruments are selected for vanity, not sonic performance. I think that bamboo is not rare, therefore a boutique builder would not consider it. I don't think that spalted maple, for example, is any better than plain old maple. I don't think that AAAAA flamed maple is any better than plain old maple. They sure do look nice, and they are certainly rarer and more expensive.

But if Mr. Sarzo has a different agenda, we might discover that bamboo works just fine as a body wood. But of course, I'm just speculating. I reiterate that I would love to try the new Sarzo Cirrus, if only they would release a few examples...
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Bamboo would be fine for the neck stringers but the useable part of the plant isn't of sufficient size for bodies, or even necks. The bamboo flooring you see all over the place now is made up of many pieces laminated together....but laminated pieces may actually work out OK if it were done properly.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:15 AM
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OOo!!! I wanted that cherry burst Cirrus so BAD!

Jason P Bass............
I have another Custom Shop, Cherry Burst, 5 string fretless (perhaps his only brother out there). It travelled a long way from USA to Spain recently . It was a case of "love at first sight", definitely I will sell one of my kidneys before considering selling this fantastic bass.

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I have another Custom Shop, Cherry Burst, 5 string fretless (perhaps his only brother out there). It travelled a long way from USA to Spain recently . It was a case of "love at first sight", definitely I will sell one of my kidneys before considering selling this fantastic bass.

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You misquoted me, but I was thinking it anyway, haha.

Your bass is beautiful, but I think it's the "ruby red" finish instead of a burst. The two basses we're talking about above fade to solid black or a solid dark color along the edge. That seems to be a custom option on very, very few basses.

I'd love to get my hands on a ruby red Cirrus.
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You misquoted me, but I was thinking it anyway, haha.

Your bass is beautiful, but I think it's the "ruby red" finish instead of a burst. The two basses we're talking about above fade to solid black or a solid dark color along the edge. That seems to be a custom option on very, very few basses.

I'd love to get my hands on a ruby red Cirrus.
You're quite right. You mentioned "cherry burst" and I quickly connected thse words with the wrong description here.

Mine was decribed as "custom dark cherry high gloss" and I thought the same as genstormbringer (even after the explanation). My poor knowledge of finishes/colors in English language didn't catch it.

There are even more differences: fretted / ebony board...

So, before someone proves the opposite both seem to be unique basses!
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These guys have pics of a couple ruby red Cirrus basses, though none have the wide open flamed top that yours has. Either a choice piece of wood or perhaps it was custom selected - I don't know exactly how Peavey was choosing the tops.

Your pictures look like they may be a little dark, showing a ruby red finish, or it might be a completely custom color. Hard to tell without another bass to compare it to. No matter what, the flamed top on your bass is impressive.

There are a great many very rare (if not unique) Cirrus basses due to the many different options. The link above shows one Cirrus with what appears to be legitimate fretboard inlays, something I've never seen except for the Rudy Sarzo models with "snake eyes" inlays.

The result - you can never collect too many Cirrus basses! I have only 4 different models, but no tiger eyes, no maple fretboards, no maple tops, no ruby red / peacock blue, and no six strings!
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Hi all I'm immensely interested in buying a USA Cirrus 4. My problem is getting my hands on one to see if it suits me. I'm in the UK & have never seen a Cirrus in real life. I've been playing a Cort Curbow for twelve years now & I truly love it, however neck stability issues (playing in sunlight last year the neck bent so far, the strings where flat against the frets) I love the thin (from back to front) neck.
So, everything I hear about USA Cirrus excites me but I'd like to know if these Cirrus' have a thin neck?? I know they can take a very low action which I like, but what is the neck like please?
Oh while I'm here I'll ask... I know you can get a very punchy tone but can you also get a nice soft rounded tone for mellow stuff?
PS; I know I'll have to play one before I spend all that money but any help here would make the trip to London (I can't think of anywhere else that might have them, I live in Liverpool, never seen one) more palatable.
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The neck profile varies from one to another. I have 6 and they range from thin (tiger eye & bubinga) to thin/medium (all maple) with the walnut & bolt-on falling in between. The neck profile does appear to be associated with the woods used and maybe the age, but I don't think we've determined if that's absolutely correct.

The electronics can deliver pretty much any sound you might need, especially if you get the Millenium preamp with the sweepable mid control. I think most folks would describe the sound with everything set flat as "modern".
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Hi all I'm immensely interested in buying a USA Cirrus 4. My problem is getting my hands on one to see if it suits me. I'm in the UK & have never seen a Cirrus in real life. I've been playing a Cort Curbow for twelve years now & I truly love it, however neck stability issues (playing in sunlight last year the neck bent so far, the strings where flat against the frets) I love the thin (from back to front) neck.
So, everything I hear about USA Cirrus excites me but I'd like to know if these Cirrus' have a thin neck?? I know they can take a very low action which I like, but what is the neck like please?
Oh while I'm here I'll ask... I know you can get a very punchy tone but can you also get a nice soft rounded tone for mellow stuff?
PS; I know I'll have to play one before I spend all that money but any help here would make the trip to London (I can't think of anywhere else that might have them, I live in Liverpool, never seen one) more palatable.
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Very, very, very thin and narrow. So much you have the impression that it is too little for the string tension of a 35' scale! And very, very low action.

BXPs are easy to get from the UK. I've got both BXP and USA. Not 100% the same thing but the BXPs from Indonesia come very close in my opinion. The problem with USA Cirrus is prices and availability iin Europe. 2nd hand here in Spain are considerably more expensive than what I see in TB. ALmost twice as much.

To me the options are older BXP (good old neck-through from Indonesia), 2nd hand (more expensive than USA, but still very good value) or you ask a friend to bring one from the USA (as I did)

PS I checked, they don't have stock for BXP-4 any longer, only BXP-5. I'd never buy the new ones (low Q bolt-on, more expensive and have not seen them in Europe)
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These guys have pics of a couple ruby red Cirrus basses
I don't know that any of those is actually Ruby Red. Maybe, but they look kind of dark. OTOH, here's mine, which IS Ruby Red:

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