Official U.S. Peavey Cirrus Club Part 3 - Page 10

Buck Spunni · #**181** 02-17-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mb94952

http://www.theperfectbass.com/EMG-BQ...and-Preamp.htm

I found this one but it says "For EMG pickups ONLY"

EMG's, like Cirrus, are low impedance active pickups, so my guess is that system would work fine with Cirrus pickups as-is. The only thing you might have to change would be the volume & blend pots. EMG uses low value controls which would not work properly with passive high impedance pickups, hence their disclaimer on that particular system. You can buy just the tone circuitry and add your own volume & blend pots to suit. Sorry, I don't remember off the top of my head what the values of the pots on the Cirrus pre are, but if you're stuck I could get off my butt & go look in the parts drawer.

I don't think EMG have an option with a fixed mid.

mb94952 · #**182** 02-17-2013, 01:48 PM

I am confused.

If EMG and Cirrus are LOW impedance (active for Cirrus) pickups and you said the system won't tolerate high impedance passive, then that sounds like it would work to me. Since the Cirrus are not high impedance passive, then ?

Buck Spunni · #**183** 02-17-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mb94952

I am confused.

If EMG and Cirrus are LOW impedance (active for Cirrus) pickups and you said the system won't tolerate high impedance passive, then that sounds like it would work to me. Since the Cirrus are not high impedance passive, then ?

That's what I said - should work....at worst you might have to do the minor modification of swapping the volume and blend pots for more suitable values . If you want a qualified expert opinion email EMG and Peavey.

Gabriel51 · #**184** 02-17-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mb94952

Does anybody know if the newer version of the now discontinued USA Peavey Cirrus has the same single board preamp ?

I believe the BXP's have a preamp that looks like a Bartolini's NTMB with individual pots and a small mother board.

The reason I am asking is that I want to put a Cirrus pre in a custom but the one board version may not fit.

The newer version looks the same as the older version, both are single boards. Many things about the newer version bass is different, the body shape, the neck profile, the tuners (but not always according to Peavey on the tuners).
BXP has a block type preamp and separate knobs that could be put in anything if you wanted too.

VS · #**185** 02-17-2013, 09:04 PM

Got the SWR Black Beauty today and I'm sold!

mb94952 · #**186** 02-19-2013, 01:41 PM

As Stu knows, I have never been a fan of the Millennium preamp. I had it in my alder/maple for a while and switched back to the stock pre and everything made sense again. It seems that in alder or bubinga it just muddies up the tone and I couldn't seem to find a "natural" or pleasing tone.

But...

As far as the tiger eye Cirrus goes, I think it is a must ! I am just realizing the awesomeness of the Millennium preamp. I will qualify my statement based on fact that the tiger eye is the only neck thru USA Cirrus that has a mohagony body. To me, mohagony is very neutral and demands tones to be pulled out of it. In other words, I found that the Milli pre can really shape mohagony like a kid would shape play dough.
Unlike alder or walnut which has a distinctive tone, mohagony is very dark, so the slightest tweak of the EQ makes a huge difference and that's where the variable mids come into play. Just a slight boost of the low mids actually adds more lows, and anything in between.

I would think that for the touring bassist where every room is different acoustically, the tiger eye Cirrus would make most sense. Keep your amp relatively flat-ish, and use the onboard Milli pre and especially the variable mid to find the right tone for the room.

Just my opinion, but I am realizing how much I don't know !

Gabriel51 · #**187** 02-19-2013, 02:00 PM

It made a world of difference on the Wenge (on the right), but the Limba/Koa sounded perfect just like it came. I have a new extra Millennium preamp just in case I get another that needs it.
The Maple I had needed it desperately!
You can see the difference between the 1998 and 2006 body in this picture. 1998 has a thinner neck also...

ed_iscream · #**188** 02-21-2013, 01:28 AM

Sorry guys if I break, I have a GAS, I'm looking for Peavy Cirrus 6 for purchase.
I placed an ad in the thread "Wanted", but no one answered.
If you have any suggestions I'll be happy with it!)

I apologize again for OFF!
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=955432

mb94952 · #**189** 02-21-2013, 12:08 PM

So I took my tiger eye Cirrus to play live last night. Boy, was I pleasantly surprised. The low end was boomy and almost too boomy, but nothing a tweak of the bass and treble on the amp and a little tweaking onboard couldn't immediately fix.

Usually when I play slap on a bass, the signal live seems a little lower, although on a CD it's consistent.

With the mohagony body, the slap tone was right there ! Then with the blend just a click to the jazz side, it was tone heaven. Perfect low end growl.

I finally see the magic of the Millennium preamp, too ! I still think it is unnecessary on alder or walnut (to me) but with "hog" it adds so much more. I know a lot of you guys said the Milli pre made your alder "come alive".

I'm telling you, Peavey always gets it right in my book, but the Tiger Eye Cirrus is the flagship for a reason. I don't think it's coincidence that the same woods are used on Alembic basses and they have been doing it longer than anybody.

I am so happy with my tiger eye.

Gabriel51 · #**190** 02-21-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mb94952

So I took my tiger eye Cirrus to play live last night. Boy, was I pleasantly surprised. The low end was boomy and almost too boomy, but nothing a tweak of the bass and treble on the amp and a little tweaking onboard couldn't immediately fix.

Usually when I play slap on a bass, the signal live seems a little lower, although on a CD it's consistent.

With the mohagony body, the slap tone was right there ! Then with the blend just a click to the jazz side, it was tone heaven. Perfect low end growl.

I finally see the magic of the Millennium preamp, too ! I still think it is unnecessary on alder or walnut (to me) but with "hog" it adds so much more. I know a lot of you guys said the Milli pre made your alder "come alive".

I'm telling you, Peavey always gets it right in my book, but the Tiger Eye Cirrus is the flagship for a reason. I don't think it's coincidence that the same woods are used on Alembic basses and they have been doing it longer than anybody.

I am so happy with my tiger eye.

Hey,
Is the intonation correct on that bass?
I had a BXP Tiger eye but they don't look as good as the US Cirrus

mb94952 · #**191** 02-21-2013, 12:16 PM

Hey Gabe.
Yes, the intonation is dead on because I did the set up on it, so I know.
Play a note anywhere and the fifth and/or the octave sounds the same no matter where you play it. Intonation is pretty easy to set up, but then again this is a USA Cirrus, so maybe there is a little difference there, too.

Gabriel51 · #**192** 02-21-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mb94952

Hey Gabe.
Yes, the intonation is dead on because I did the set up on it, so I know.
Play a note anywhere and the fifth and/or the octave sounds the same no matter where you play it. Intonation is pretty easy to set up, but then again this is a USA Cirrus, so maybe there is a little difference there, too.

All of them are pretty much the same, it's just a function of length. I just noticed the "G" string barrel was a little far back from where I'm used to seeing it in comparison to the other strings.
Look at my basses from a couple of post up, this is what I have normally seen for the last 40+ years. Doesn't mean something is wrong, but I would probably question that "G" string, but that's just me.
Nice Bass

mb94952 · #**193** 02-21-2013, 12:31 PM

Yes you are correct & I had the exact same thought but you can't argue with results

Gabriel51 · #**194** 02-21-2013, 12:35 PM

Truly

ilikebass7 · #**195** 02-22-2013, 09:22 PM

Guys my cirrus is awesome! It's tone is like a musicman with more punch and clarity. It's so light also. Love it.

Landsharks · #**196** 02-23-2013, 07:56 AM

I really like the sound of the Millennium pre in my Tiger Eye. I went by and talked with Steve in Meridian at the service department to see if I could get one, and he said they didn't have any and are backordered. Also, he said he didn't know if they would be getting any new ones. I would love to swap my Cirrus pre with the Millennium pre. The big question....does anyone have a Millennium pre they would like to let go? Really like the sweepable mid.

mb94952 · #**197** 02-23-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Landsharks

I really like the sound of the Millennium pre in my Tiger Eye. I went by and talked with Steve in Meridian at the service department to see if I could get one, and he said they didn't have any and are backordered. Also, he said he didn't know if they would be getting any new ones. I would love to swap my Cirrus pre with the Millennium pre. The big question....does anyone have a Millennium pre they would like to let go? Really like the sweepable mid.

Wow, that's weird and hard to believe. Peavey is usually good about keeping parts in stock. I understand that Super Ferrites may not be available, but a Milli pre seems modern enough.

Funny, I used to have about three or four laying around and I've used one in a Kawai FIIB I sold, gave one away (yes, dumb huh !), and I have one left that I'm using in a new custom.

spade2you · #**198** 02-23-2013, 10:32 AM

That's not good. I was fixin' to upgrade the preamps on a few of my Cirri.

mb94952 · #**199** 02-23-2013, 01:12 PM

Again, just a reminder about the EMG preamp. This is JUST like the Millennium preamp. It's supposed to be super quiet, too.

http://www.theperfectbass.com/EMG-BQ...and-Preamp.htm

captaincow101 · #**200** 02-26-2013, 12:26 PM

So I have an older Maple Alder US Cirrus. Just wondering what the Milli pre would do to my sound?
I have a nice tone now so I would hope to be able to dial in my current sound with the Milli pre, then mess around with other tones too.
Also, when I touch my mid pot I get a fairly loud buzz, I also get a loud tapping noise when I touch the neck pick up.
I see that the Cirrus electrics are rather complicated looking, so thought it best to ask here before jumping in.
Thank you