Official Zon Club Part 3

[golower]

Impressive said the girls.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by golower

I saw your vids on utube pretty good stuff .Sounded really good .I thought I read on the comments you were addison .I especially liked how well circumstances was .Even if it wasnt 100/ correct it was very close and played really well .I tried learning that by ear years ago you outdid me by a longshot .How did you do that ?

Thanks man!

Circumstances was a couple of days of simple woodshedding using a Tascam CD-BT1 Bass Trainer to help out in a couple of areas... if I would have spent even more time on it, I probably could have nailed it even better than that, but that video was more to prove a point than anything else.

My next plan is to try to do a YYZ video... that tune was one of my original "goals" when I first started playing and I finally sat down to try and learn it note-for-note about a year ago... I think I'm close enough at this point to shoot a video for it.

I actually just bought a new Ric 4003 and was going to use that for the video, but the thing was in shambles when I received it... horrible, horrible QC for a brand-new bass. Neck was screwed... just really bad. Total disappointment... had to send it back.

[rulyongo]

Originally Posted by Addison

Thanks man!

Circumstances was a couple of days of simple woodshedding using a Tascam CD-BT1 Bass Trainer to help out in a couple of areas... if I would have spent even more time on it, I probably could have nailed it even better than that, but that video was more to prove a point than anything else.

My next plan is to try to do a YYZ video... that tune was one of my original "goals" when I first started playing and I finally sat down to try and learn it note-for-note about a year ago... I think I'm close enough at this point to shoot a video for it.

I actually just bought a new Ric 4003 and was going to use that for the video, but the thing was in shambles when I received it... horrible, horrible QC for a brand-new bass. Neck was screwed... just really bad. Total disappointment... had to send it back.

That sucks!!! It happened to me with another brand also, even though I returned it and got my money back it is very frustrating...

[The_Owl]

Man I can't wait for Zon at NAMM 13!

[golower]

John Entwistle Owned a massive bass collection .Iam sure you remember the article on him in bass player magazine where they showed it and he talked about it .Said he got tired of twisted necks ,hence the Buzzard bass .As much as I like the sound of wood necks I would never own a neck with out graphite in it ever again .Its too frustrating .
Playing bass doesnt need to be like chewing on tough steak .
Back in the mid eighties my bass teacher wanted to trade me his Rickenbacher for my Peavey t-40 .He couldnt get over the awesome sound of it .I thought he was nuts .It did give me a better appreciation for my Peavey because I just considered it a beginner entry level bass .It sounded really great thru his old scool SVT .Huge .with two JBL E140,s.(15 inch )Now that was a bass that you had to dig into .
Kickin it old school.Rush ,Zeppelin ,Aerosmith ,Tommy Bolin ,Ratt ,The Cult . Fun stuff

[rulyongo]

Originally Posted by golower

John Entwistle Owned a massive bass collection .Iam sure you remember the article on him in bass player magazine where they showed it and he talked about it .Said he got tired of twisted necks ,hence the Buzzard bass .As much as I like the sound of wood necks I would never own a neck with out graphite in it ever again .Its too frustrating .
Playing bass doesnt need to be like chewing on tough steak .
Back in the mid eighties my bass teacher wanted to trade me his Rickenbacher for my Peavey t-40 .He couldnt get over the awesome sound of it .I thought he was nuts .It did give me a better appreciation for my Peavey because I just considered it a beginner entry level bass .It sounded really great thru his old scool SVT .Huge .with two JBL E140,s.(15 inch )Now that was a bass that you had to dig into .
Kickin it old school.Rush ,Zeppelin ,Aerosmith ,Tommy Bolin ,Ratt ,The Cult . Fun stuff

Nice!!! It's true once you get used to the stability of the graphite neck you don't wanna go back to wooden necks...


I wonder, does anybody in the forum tried a passive Zon?

[portraitoftracy]

Looking to buy a Zon Vinny 4 or 5 string, please contact me if you are willing to part with one, thanks

[Sleepwalker42]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker42

...in the meantime, this is my trans finish purple, my very first Zon

No flash

with flash


In real life looks much more like the first picture, with low light it looks almost black.

Now I'm after a Legacy Standard, how much should I expect to pay for something like that in very good conditions?

I will be listing this Sonus shortly, right after I take some more pics. After acquiring 2 more Zon, I decided I like the closer p/ups on my other Sonus.
If anybody is interested PM me for details. Sorry if I use the Zon Club thread to anticipate times.

[golower]

Ill tradeya a horsetrailer fulla crushed aluminum cans and a twenty gauge for er.

[Sleepwalker42]

Originally Posted by golower

Ill tradeya a horsetrailer fulla crushed aluminum cans and a twenty gauge for er.

Ehm, alrerady have one, thanks

[golower]

Yes I was just trying to have some fun . I noticed something on your pics that I had not seen before anywhere else and that was how much mass the bridge saddles have .Pretty beefy .Hard to see that in alot of other pics .
Seems to be the pickups moved towards the bridge is becoming pretty popular .Iam seeing and hearing alot of people interested in that .

[Sleepwalker42]

This is a segment of an interview from 2005 to Joe Zon. After reading this I was very curious to try one with this specs and I found the exact combination in my other Sonus which I liked better.

"In the late 80's when keyboards were very prevalent in the music and the bass just wasn't cutting through the mix, many players were approaching me for a bass that could be more easily heard in this type of band setting. I knew what bubinga and ash sounded like, and I knew from previous experience that by moving the neck pickup closer to the bridge, the bass could achieve more punch. Because I had the acoustic side of this bass figured out, the missing link in this equation was the pickup. By coincidence, Bill Bartolini had just started working with multi-coil pickups, and he sent me a set. I plugged them into this new bass, and they worked perfectly. The resulting research in this project produced the Sonus Special, and players really took to this new bass. This is an example of how no single element was more important than the others because the choice of body woods in combination with the pickups and their placement in the instrument all complemented each other. It's a sum of all the parts. The most significant part of the instrument is the instrument itself."

[rulyongo]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker42

This is a segment of an interview from 2005 to Joe Zon. After reading this I was very curious to try one with this specs and I found the exact combination in my other Sonus which I liked better.

"In the late 80's when keyboards were very prevalent in the music and the bass just wasn't cutting through the mix, many players were approaching me for a bass that could be more easily heard in this type of band setting. I knew what bubinga and ash sounded like, and I knew from previous experience that by moving the neck pickup closer to the bridge, the bass could achieve more punch. Because I had the acoustic side of this bass figured out, the missing link in this equation was the pickup. By coincidence, Bill Bartolini had just started working with multi-coil pickups, and he sent me a set. I plugged them into this new bass, and they worked perfectly. The resulting research in this project produced the Sonus Special, and players really took to this new bass. This is an example of how no single element was more important than the others because the choice of body woods in combination with the pickups and their placement in the instrument all complemented each other. It's a sum of all the parts. The most significant part of the instrument is the instrument itself."

cool!!! It's true my Sonus is one of the punchiest basses I have...

[The_Owl]

Great conclusion, I totally agree. A bass is so much more than just the sum of its parts and woods. In the end, if it sounds good - it sounds good.

[Addison]

Hey Zon owners... if you feel up for it, head over to the Zon Facebook page, www.facebook.com/zonguitars and "like" the page and take a couple of minutes to write a recommendation... there's a spot for it in the right column down the page a little bit.

We just added it to the page, so it'd be nice to get some comments in there from anyone who feels up to it!

Thanks!

[MCS4]

I "liked" the page already, and I'll be happy to cover the page in recommendations once my first custom order is completed (maybe very soon...). Hopefully Bartolini will come through to make a merry Xmas for everyone.

[pbass6811]

Hey guys & gals! I'm mainly a Spector player, but my other "main" bass is a Modulus Q5, so I do enjoy that "graphite" sound & feel. There are a couple of basses on my G.A.S. list that I'd like to hear about from some owners. Since we're in the Zon thread, I'd love to see some TJ-5 & TJ-6 pics and hear from some owners? Is it strictly a "jazz" bass, or can you throw down some serious metal with it? I'm not a metalhead, but my working band is a "modern rock" band(Alice In Chains, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, etc...). I had a USA MTD, but it really didn't fit in a "rock" setting, so that's why I'm asking. Thanks.

BTW, the other bass I'm asking about is a Status Stealth...

[AndroWal]

TJ5 Fretless

[rulyongo]

Originally Posted by pbass6811

Hey guys & gals! I'm mainly a Spector player, but my other "main" bass is a Modulus Q5, so I do enjoy that "graphite" sound & feel. There are a couple of basses on my G.A.S. list that I'd like to hear about from some owners. Since we're in the Zon thread, I'd love to see some TJ-5 & TJ-6 pics and hear from some owners? Is it strictly a "jazz" bass, or can you throw down some serious metal with it? I'm not a metalhead, but my working band is a "modern rock" band(Alice In Chains, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, etc...). I had a USA MTD, but it really didn't fit in a "rock" setting, so that's why I'm asking. Thanks.

BTW, the other bass I'm asking about is a Status Stealth...

Hello!!! I got a Sonus and I play mainly rock, metal and hardcore. It is very punchy and to me very "warm sounding", more than the Modulus. I never had trouble with it, cutting through the mix... Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ongzkwY7nQo

[Addison]

Originally Posted by pbass6811

Hey guys & gals! I'm mainly a Spector player, but my other "main" bass is a Modulus Q5, so I do enjoy that "graphite" sound & feel. There are a couple of basses on my G.A.S. list that I'd like to hear about from some owners. Since we're in the Zon thread, I'd love to see some TJ-5 & TJ-6 pics and hear from some owners? Is it strictly a "jazz" bass, or can you throw down some serious metal with it? I'm not a metalhead, but my working band is a "modern rock" band(Alice In Chains, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, etc...). I had a USA MTD, but it really didn't fit in a "rock" setting, so that's why I'm asking. Thanks.

I don't want to turn you away by saying this, but even though the necks are composite, they definitely don't have the typical sound and feel of some other composite necks I've heard.

Somehow, Joe Z has managed to capture an earthiness in his necks... they're not sterile at all. Very open and alive... but just as stable as any composite neck out there.

As far as your question goes, yes... some very notable heavy rock and metal players play ZON basses.

Robert Trujillo - Metallica
Liam Wilson - Dillinger Escape Plan
Billy Gould - Faith No More
Adam Duce - Machine Head
Bart Williams - Black Dahlia Murder
Paulo Jr. - Sepultura

The cool thing is that all of those guys play very different Zon basses... so it goes to show that just about any model you choose will work for whatever style you want... it's just up to you to make sure that the pickups, electronics, string spacing, wood choices, etc. are all suited for your particular tastes.

Good luck and let us know what you end up with!!