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01-31-2013, 01:01 AM
| | | | The Beatles should rerelease Let It Be. It's an important piece of music history whether or not it makes them look good. I personally like it a lot. |
01-31-2013, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pet Sounds  The Beatles should rerelease Let It Be. It's an important piece of music history whether or not it makes them look good. I personally like it a lot. | They will. One of these Christmas', it'll be available.
As far as whether something makes them look good or not, they did release the Magical Mystery Tour TV-movie last year.  |
01-31-2013, 08:49 AM
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01-31-2013, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Troph If the Fender Bass VI was used anywhere on Abbey Road, it is a mystery where it was used. By contrast, everyone agrees that Lennon and Harrison used it on both the White Album and Let It Be whenever McCartney was busy with piano or guitar. IIRC, McCartney is not known to have ever recorded with it. | The Fender Bass VI is played by John on "Oh Darling". Listen to the isolated track. It is unmistakable.
"Maxwell" is George, also on the Bass VI.
"Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight" is George on the Fender Jazz. |
01-31-2013, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jbiscuti The Fender Bass VI is played by John on "Oh Darling". Listen to the isolated track. It is unmistakable.
"Maxwell" is George, also on the Bass VI.
"Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight" is George on the Fender Jazz. | He could be right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM5pPM4hA8Q
It's sloppy (several mistakes), and sounds very tick-tack like.
I'm also part of the camp that thinks While My Guitar... was John on the Fender VI, because it lacks low end, and is also pretty sloppy.
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01-31-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ggvicviper He could be right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM5pPM4hA8Q
It's sloppy (several mistakes), and sounds very tick-tack like.
I'm also part of the camp that thinks While My Guitar... was John on the Fender VI, because it lacks low end, and is also pretty sloppy. | WMGGW sounds very much like a Jazz with flats and the bridge cover screwed down so that the foam mute is stomping on the strings.
Just read recently that George played bass on "Oh Darling," but of course no one has any proof of any of this.
George himself said that he played bass on "She Said She Said" because Paul had walked out after a tiff.
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01-31-2013, 12:31 PM
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Just read recently that George played bass on "Oh Darling," but of course no one has any proof of any of this.
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Cool bassline, but I've always wondered why those guys would release the thing that goes on around 1:30..Maybe it's just me. |
01-31-2013, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jbiscuti The Fender Bass VI is played by John on "Oh Darling". Listen to the isolated track. It is unmistakable. | According to Lewisohn: "... basic track: bass and guide vocal (Paul), drums (Ringo), piano (John) and guitar via a Leslie (George)." 26 takes. |
01-31-2013, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Btone | Holy cow. I had no idea there was such slop going on there. |
01-31-2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player According to Lewisohn: "... basic track: bass and guide vocal (Paul), drums (Ringo), piano (John) and guitar via a Leslie (George)." 26 takes. | Paul wasn't above making mistakes on keeper tracks, but the timing problems and mistakes in "Oh Darling" go way beyond what you expect from him, especially given his performance on the other songs on the same album.
I really doubt that was him unless it was early in the composition process and he just never replaced it. But that doesn't sound like Paul either.. |
01-31-2013, 07:01 PM
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01-31-2013, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ggvicviper | I had never heard that isolated track from Rock Band. I assume it was pulled from the master tapes?
I agree that it sounds like a Fender Bass VI, which pretty much rules out Paul as the player. |
01-31-2013, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Troph I had never heard that isolated track from Rock Band. I assume it was pulled from the master tapes?
I agree that it sounds like a Fender Bass VI, which pretty much rules out Paul as the player. | Dunno 'bout that.
Lewisohn stated that the version, that we all know, was several of the original 26 takes put together. The bumps heard in the isolated bass track could be edit points.
None of us were there. Lewisohn has come the closest. |
02-01-2013, 04:14 PM
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02-01-2013, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MrDOS | That seems to be lifted from the Lewisohn book, but sort of reworded (plagiarism?).
However, probably the most accurate account of what happened. |
02-01-2013, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Btone | Sorry, I cannot be convinced that this isolated track is the one on Abbey Road. There are no timing flubs on the master track, and no bum notes. I need more convincing than hearing it on YouTube.
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02-01-2013, 11:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redwood City, CA | | | I'm stepping up my comment. I've just listened again. We are being scammed. That isolated track is not on Abbey Road. Listen to the dotted notes on the YouTube version leading in to the first chorus. And that epic fail at 1:30. Not possible. Don't try to convince me. Move on.
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02-02-2013, 05:50 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Durham NC | | Oh! Darling sounds too melodic to be John.
Sounds too sloppy to be Paul.
Maybe it was Ringo? Or George Martin? 
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02-02-2013, 06:06 AM
| | | | There's so many mistakes in so many Bealtes' songs that i am not surprised that they have realeased that way. The harmonics made me think of George... Maybe it's him on "Oh Darling". Surely he's a more melodic bass palyer than John and not so accurate as Paul.
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