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01-10-2013, 10:44 AM
|  | resU deretsigeR | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Odenton, MD | | | Jumping in there. I have some reranch tinted clear that I'm going to use as a project, but I want to top coat that with a "clear" clear. What works best on top of the reranch stuff? | 
01-10-2013, 10:54 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Valley Ranch, Texas | | | I'd only recommend you top coat it with nitro clear. Reranch clear would be my first suggestion, but pretty much any other brand of nitro clear would work. I definitely would not suggest any type of poly.
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01-10-2013, 11:06 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hernameisrio Envincibal, that is absolutely gorgeous...I might commission you to paint my next one!  | Thanks! It was a very pleasant and relaxing experience, and all-in-all, not so difficult. They key was preparing for each step & not rushing anything.
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01-10-2013, 11:11 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jweber76 Wow! That is the most incredible rattle can job I have ever seen...
The solids are cool and there are some very professional looking paint jobs on this thread but that flame... And that clear... Man, it looks like it's a mile deep! | Thanks for the compliment! I used the ColorTone polishing compounds (Fine and the swirl remover) from StewMac, which really helped to add depth to the clear coat. They also have a Presevation polish that's peaked my interest... maybe another project in the near future...red-black burst over flamed maple... 
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01-12-2013, 06:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Queens, NY | | | Hey guys, so it's looking pretty good so far but I'm having a hard time getting the clear coat to look nice and even. I'm using the MTN brand and this is an acrylic clear coat. I don't want to fall into the trap of continuing to spray it and end up with too many heavy spots. At this point, should I use a really fine grain sandpaper and/or finishing paper or polishing cloth to get it more uniform? I guess at this point I don't mind if it has more of a satin look, it's more important to me that it be consistent. Photos don't really show it because you have to kinda tilt your head and watch the light hit it. Any ideas?
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01-15-2013, 02:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Queens, NY | | So one of my co-workers suggested using one of those Mr. Clean Magic Erasers. They totally suck for actually cleaning whatever they're supposed to, but they work like a charm as a fine polishing/sanding sponge. Try it out! 
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01-15-2013, 03:01 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Willow Street, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hernameisrio So one of my co-workers suggested using one of those Mr. Clean Magic Erasers. They totally suck for actually cleaning whatever they're supposed to, but they work like a charm as a fine polishing/sanding sponge. Try it out!  | The only problem with them is that there's no way of telling what grit it is, or if there are impurities in the sponge that'll leave scratches.
I'd go with Micromesh instead. | 
01-15-2013, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rzpooch
Not sure if I posted this bass...I has a matching head stock too | what color is that D:looks nice! | 
01-15-2013, 10:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Queens, NY | | I tried the Magic Eraser figuring I'd chalk this whole thing up to one big experiment anyway. If you tear the sponge in half and wet it, it polishes very nicely, even more so with guitar polish and not water.
I had matte-finish paint that I thought was gloss or at least satin (doh!), acrylic clear coat, a limited budget, limited tools, limited ventilation/time/space, and am still pretty satisfied that I came out with this. I discovered I could work with the clear coat while it was still tacky, used the Magic Eraser to blend it down a bit...ended up with a few bubbles and imperfections, but for a first-time refinish, I think it's pretty good.
I'll hit the back of it with good old glossy Krylon black and probably put a zebra-print pickguard on there someday. What do y'all think? The only thing that kinda sucks is I got a bit of paint on the pickups. Thankfully at work I have the space to pull them out, blow out any paint chips that might've gotten in there with the air hose, and then clean them off at my leisure.
There are many things I will do differently next time, but I really enjoyed and appreciated the process involved in a DIY refinish and look forward to doing many more.
Here is a snazzy shot with the flash. It's still slightly wet near the tone/volume knobs. 
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Last edited by hernameisrio : 01-15-2013 at 10:33 PM.
Reason: added 'nother pic
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01-16-2013, 04:22 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Willow Street, PA | | | Very nice job!! Won't be losing that one on a dark stage, that's for sure!! | 
01-16-2013, 06:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Queens, NY | | Thanks!  It's not perfect, but it's mine!
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01-16-2013, 11:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | I need to ask a totally stupid question before I embark on refinishing a beater Squier P-bass: What exactly is meant by "wet sanding?" Is it A) using dry sandpaper while the coat of whatever (Paint/clear coat) is still wet? or B) using sandpaper/sanding block/sander that has been moistened with water, or C) same, only moistened with a solvent for that particular coating, or D) Dragging your bass along the beach at high tide for an hour?
I know it's a dumb question but in nearly every online source it seems to be a given that we all know what that is.
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01-16-2013, 11:09 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cary NC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Habilis I need to ask a totally stupid question before I embark on refinishing a beater Squier P-bass: What exactly is meant by "wet sanding?" Is it A) using dry sandpaper while the coat of whatever (Paint/clear coat) is still wet? or B) using sandpaper/sanding block/sander that has been moistened with water, or C) same, only moistened with a solvent for that particular coating, or D) Dragging your bass along the beach at high tide for an hour?
I know it's a dumb question but in nearly every online source it seems to be a given that we all know what that is. | D) would be fun  but it's most certainly B. Just make sure it's wet sanding sandpaper!!! 
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01-20-2013, 07:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hernameisrio I tried the Magic Eraser figuring I'd chalk this whole thing up to one big experiment anyway. If you tear the sponge in half and wet it, it polishes very nicely, even more so with guitar polish and not water.
I had matte-finish paint that I thought was gloss or at least satin (doh!), acrylic clear coat, a limited budget, limited tools, limited ventilation/time/space, and am still pretty satisfied that I came out with this. I discovered I could work with the clear coat while it was still tacky, used the Magic Eraser to blend it down a bit...ended up with a few bubbles and imperfections, but for a first-time refinish, I think it's pretty good.
I'll hit the back of it with good old glossy Krylon black and probably put a zebra-print pickguard on there someday. What do y'all think? The only thing that kinda sucks is I got a bit of paint on the pickups. Thankfully at work I have the space to pull them out, blow out any paint chips that might've gotten in there with the air hose, and then clean them off at my leisure.
There are many things I will do differently next time, but I really enjoyed and appreciated the process involved in a DIY refinish and look forward to doing many more.
Here is a snazzy shot with the flash. It's still slightly wet near the tone/volume knobs.  |
Thank you, you were what I needed to give me a final fush and refinish my VM fretless!
My situation was a bit different. I don't mind sunbursts. But the previous owner did not like them, like you, and put a Fender body, in "shoreline gold". I hated that colour.
So I sprayed it Capri Orange.
Orange directly on the golden body looked dull when I did a quick test, so I used a white nitro primer first, and then Capri Orange nitro.
This is what it's looking like (still not wet sanded or buffed... just straight from spraying... I actually like the textured surface)
That's not the original bridge, which is still attached to teh strings... I just put this one there for the mock picture. 
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01-20-2013, 09:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Queens, NY | | | Ahh! Love that color, nice work!
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01-20-2013, 01:58 PM
|  | Just days from retirement. | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lincoln, NE | | | Is that the Capri Orange from Gracey's paint? I've thought about using that color and am thinking it might be good for when I redo my ESP B5-JR.
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01-20-2013, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by xaxxat If you're thinking flat black, John Deere Blitz Black is a good choice. It's available in rattle cans from John Deere dealers. | & WAYYY too expensive imo
i used this, it's much cheaper
on this
no clear on top, i've touched it up numerous times, & the new just blends with the old
haven't done a bass yet, but maybe | 
01-20-2013, 03:10 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queens | | I realized I never posted this guy in here:
I got the P/J body for $25...it was originally shoreline gold and joint compound. I sanded it down until it was such that it could be primed, then applied primer, and a few coats of charcoal metallic automotive paint. I then realized I was in over my head as far as the clear coat (trying to to all of this in the bathroom of an NYC apartment), so I gave it to a local guy to do handle that.
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01-22-2013, 10:33 AM
|  | Resident Hack and General Waste of Gear | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Micco Florida | | | I need to get some pics up. I just completed a P Bass build with my first Rattle Can paint job and it came out really well thanks to all the info in this thread. I used Reranch Primer, Reranch Lake Placid Blue and cleared it with Minwax Gloss Lacquer. I am stoked by the results. Special thanks to ThaLowEndTheory for answering a couple of questions I PM'd him with.
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01-22-2013, 10:47 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Valley Ranch, Texas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TinIndian I need to get some pics up. I just completed a P Bass build with my first Rattle Can paint job and it came out really well thanks to all the info in this thread. I used Reranch Primer, Reranch Lake Placid Blue and cleared it with Minwax Gloss Lacquer. I am stoked by the results. Special thanks to ThaLowEndTheory for answering a couple of questions I PM'd him with. | Glad it went well for you. Post those pics when you get a chance. 
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