The Rickenbacker Club Part Seven - Page 12

Jeff Scott · #**221** 12-10-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FourNotFive

Alternately it's really strange that they would pick such a unique item for a scam...you can't throw a dead cat without hitting fourteen dudes that would jump at a too good to be true Les Paul...but this just seems too...specific...

I guess we could speculate...or I could contact the guy and see...

This type of scam is actually pretty common.

**sgiacomo** · #**222** 12-10-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kombi

Ruby Red... Beautiful

Thanks. The metallic doesn't show well in pics but they are purty, and red just sounds better!

Congrats willsellout and Kyle, hope you like yours!

BassGen · #**223** 12-10-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

Well, anybody have a link to a wiring diagram so I can at least eliminate something?

Did you try rickenbacker.com?

http://www.rickenbacker.com/pdfs/19507.pdf

bassgod0dmw · #**224** 12-10-2012, 06:15 PM

I'd prefer a wiring diagram with pictures. I don't know how to read the schematic very well.

BassGen · #**225** 12-10-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I'd prefer a wiring diagram with pictures. I don't know how to read the schematic very well.

I tried. You did say "wiring diagram" and not "photo."

willsellout · #**226** 12-10-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sgiacomo

Thanks. The metallic doesn't show well in pics but they are purty, and red just sounds better!

Congrats willsellout and Kyle, hope you like yours!

I know I will love it. I've owned a couple 4003's and I don't really know why I got rid of them. They always feel very comfortable and the sound is always top notch!

bassgod0dmw · #**227** 12-10-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BassGen

I tried. You did say "wiring diagram" and not "photo."

I appreciate it. I don't really want a "photo" either...I want a drawing?

I know...I'm not helping.

willsellout · #**228** 12-10-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnk_10

maybe this'll help.....

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I'd prefer a wiring diagram with pictures. I don't know how to read the schematic very well.

Does this help?

sloppy_phil · #**229** 12-10-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I'd prefer a wiring diagram with pictures. I don't know how to read the schematic very well.

This helped me wire mine up just fine

But I've got to admit; what you're experiencing doesn't sound like a failing push/pull knob. With mine in the 'vintage mode' (which is actually the stock mode for mine... it's older), the bridge pickup matches pretty evenly with the neck. I have the p'ups set so that the neck is a touch louder in this mode. When i kick it over to 'modern', the bridge definitely dominates. To me, your problem sounds more like the bridge pickup just isn't wired properly... perhaps out of phase or a loose solder? How does the bass sound in the middle position, in comparison to both the neck and bridge positions? Or the pickup heights could just be seriously mismatched, but that's less likely

willsellout · #**230** 12-10-2012, 06:39 PM

Maybe a cold solder joint?

bassgod0dmw · #**231** 12-10-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sloppy_phil

But I've got to admit; what you're experiencing doesn't sound like a failing push/pull knob. With mine in the 'vintage mode' (which is actually the stock mode for mine... it's older), the bridge pickup matches pretty evenly with the neck. I have the p'ups set so that the neck is a touch louder in this mode. When i kick it over to 'modern', the bridge definitely dominates. To me, your problem sounds more like the bridge pickup just isn't wired properly... perhaps out of phase or a loose solder? How does the bass sound in the middle position, in comparison to both the neck and bridge positions? Or the pickup heights could just be seriously mismatched, but that's less likely

I think I'm dealing with a few things at once. The switch definitely doesn't work, but I agree that it may be something else too.

Bridge Position: Weak and thin
Middle Position: Strong and full, pretty much like a Ric
Neck Position: Exactly the same as the middle position

When I say "pretty much like a Ric" I mean that I can get a very Ric like tone when I play hard or with a pic.

willsellout · #**232** 12-10-2012, 06:44 PM

Be careful when putting in a new switch. Those things are finicky and can overheat quickly.

bassgod0dmw · #**233** 12-10-2012, 07:14 PM

I don't see anything obvious, and I assume this is all factory wiring. I don't see any cold solder joints, but I'm not sure how to actually test for them with a meter. The wiring diagram posted above matches this wiring.

thiocyclist · #**234** 12-10-2012, 07:18 PM

If I suspect a cold joint I often just heat up the soldering iron and flow a little new solder onto the suspect joint(s) after heating up the old solder so it becomes shiny and flowing on the wire lead. More often than not this does it.

bassgod0dmw · #**235** 12-10-2012, 07:44 PM

I don't really suspect any of them unfortunately.

Also, the treble tone knob doesn't seem to do much other than turn down the volume. It is hard to tell though, since the volume of the pickup is so low in the first place.

corsa · #**236** 12-10-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by corsa

Not mine and I have no connection to this ad but I spotted it today on the Cincinnati Craigslist and thought I'd pass it on.

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/msg/3468282911.html

No price is listed.

Follow-up - the post has been deleted already. I wondered about a scam when I read it but if it was legit - wow! Either it was bogus or somebody snapped it up.

sloppy_phil · #**237** 12-10-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I don't really suspect any of them unfortunately.

Also, the treble tone knob doesn't seem to do much other than turn down the volume. It is hard to tell though, since the volume of the pickup is so low in the first place.

This sounds exactly like problems I was having, too. The switch definitely isn't wired right; if the middle position sounds the same as the neck, it's because it *is* just the neck. The bridge isn't working properly, and at that volume imbalance, the mid position will sound just like the neck. The most likely culprit for a cold joint (based on what I'm reading compared to my own experience) will be on the push/pull. Maybe even an errant blob of solder is causing a contact short somewhere...

I just remembered! This might sound weird, but try moving the grounding (black) wire that runs from 'bass vol' -> 'bass tone' onto 'treble vol' -> 'treble tone' instead. I seem to recall doing this and fixing all the problems I was having... it drove me nuts, because even wired up properly according to that schematic, things didn't work. Mind you, I had it working slightly better than you do (got full signal from the 'vintage' mode, IIRC), but you never know...

Good luck!

bassgod0dmw · #**238** 12-11-2012, 06:40 AM

So, if I put a meter on the neck pickup...it reads 11.64k
If I put a meter on the bridge pickup...it reads 301.6k

On the bridge pickup with the "modern" side of the switch engaged, it reads 302.4k
On the bridge pickup with the "vintage" side of the switch engaged, it reads OL

That doesn't sound right at all.

thiocyclist · #**239** 12-11-2012, 08:19 AM

When you read 300k it's the pot you're measuring, not the pickup. If you're using the same method you did to measure the neck pickup then there is a cold joint somewhere keeping the signal from coming through upstream of the point you measured.

The vintage mode engages a cap and does weird things. So don't worry about that.

willsellout · #**240** 12-11-2012, 08:27 AM

The pots are 500K pots, if they are reading 300, that's way off, isn't it?

But yeah to measure the pickups, you'd need to measure the leads by themselves, right?