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Old 12-28-2012, 11:54 PM
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Not if done with removing just what is needed. After all, the V63, and C64s series have their toasters in the 1/2" location, not to mention all the mid '70s and older 4001 basses, likewise.
Yes, the older 4001 are like that, but it doesn't mean that they are not weaker at this point. This area is about where the maximum value for bending moment will appear. Of course or shell I say obviously the old Ric's handled this issue well so. But I'll guess the 4003 is "stronger"
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:56 AM
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I have actually seen more wood in the neck cavity of the older 4001s than newer 4003s, because the new rout is more generous around the truss rods than it used to be. But I have seen old Rics with hellacious action problems which could be a result of bad neck angle, and not so many newer 4003s that way, so something must be better now.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:02 AM
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Yes, the older 4001 are like that, but it doesn't mean that they are not weaker at this point. This area is about where the maximum value for bending moment will appear. Of course or shell I say obviously the old Ric's handled this issue well so. But I'll guess the 4003 is "stronger"
Do you own an older 4001?
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:36 AM
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Do you own an older 4001?
No, just seen a few and played a couple. But as a engineer in mechanics and a product developer who work much with CAD I'm used to analyze construction from the pure mechanical point of view.
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But I would love to own a 4001CS which is based on an old 4001.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:44 AM
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No, just seen a few and played a couple. But as a engineer in mechanics and a product developer who work much with CAD I'm used to analyze construction from the pure mechanical point of view.
I still have one (March '73 4001) and have a owned a few others and a V63 over the years; none have ever had neck related issues.
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I still have one (March '73 4001) and have a owned a few others and a V63 over the years; none have ever had neck related issues.
Well, Rics do look solid build, but then the neck construction of the Rics vary a bit from thin to thick etc. I do not know in reality if the various 4001 and 4003 do vary that much in construction
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But I would love to own a 4001CS which is based on an old 4001.
Well, sorta. While it is called a "4001CS," it is based on the 4001V63 which is based on the 4003S which is based on the 4003 which is based on the 4001. While it looks like Chris Squire's venerable, repainted, repaired, and reconditioned RM1999 (4001S), the CS has more modern hardware and pickups and the "new" truss-rod system installed in all new Rick basses since 1986.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:27 PM
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Anybody got a Mapleglo Ric with anything other than a while pickguard? I was thinking about getting something different but wasn't sure how hokey it might look.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:55 PM
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I have 3 Rics listed for sale if anyone is interested. I plan to keep one of them but will let the fates decide which. Ad is floating in For Sale section under "Multiple Basses".

'74 4001 burgandyglo with red side dots
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:20 PM
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Anybody got a Mapleglo Ric with anything other than a while pickguard? I was thinking about getting something different but wasn't sure how hokey it might look.
Here's one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Maplegl...90703695463%26

An older one with more aged maple:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-TIME-CA...item1c2de69bfd

Some like the look, some don't.
As far as I know the RIC policy about TRCs is still a swap of yours for one of another colour plus money.
Probably best to make or have one made to go along with the different guard.
Back painted clear plexi TRCs do look really nice.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:32 AM
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Well, sorta. While it is called a "4001CS," it is based on the 4001V63 which is based on the 4003S which is based on the 4003 which is based on the 4001. While it looks like Chris Squire's venerable, repainted, repaired, and reconditioned RM1999 (4001S), the CS has more modern hardware and pickups and the "new" truss-rod system installed in all new Rick basses since 1986.
Sound the Rickenbacker matrix to me!
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:09 AM
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What I've meant is that this seem almost like a virtual reality when the 4001CS is based on a model which is based on an other model which again is really based on an other model.
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:58 PM
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Why do you have so many Rics? No complaints here, I mean, I guess my only complaint is that they aren't mine

But seriously, why so many?
JGFL...it is a fretless.... self explanatory.

MG....tuned to Eb for my main acoustic trio gig.

FG.....tuned to E with flatwound strings for my rock gig and the occasional country and blues sub gigs I get.

JG.....tuned to E with Rotossound 66's for my main rock band gig.

I play 6-10 gigs a month in 2-3 bands and get sub work. I need a little variety in my arsenal....I just like all of my variety to say Rickenbacker on the headstock.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:20 PM
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JGFL...it is a fretless.... self explanatory.

MG....tuned to Eb for my main acoustic trio gig.

FG.....tuned to E with flatwound strings for my rock gig and the occasional country and blues sub gigs I get.

JG.....tuned to E with Rotossound 66's for my main rock band gig.

I play 6-10 gigs a month in 2-3 bands and get sub work. I need a little variety in my arsenal....I just like all of my variety to say Rickenbacker on the headstock.
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LOL...I get it...took me a minute but I get it.
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The singer from my old band's pa had a Ric that he let me play a couple times. Holy cow did I fall in love. I keep hoping that one day I'll be able to justify the cost.
What's to justify? Start saving.... seriously.
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Anybody got a Mapleglo Ric with anything other than a while pickguard? I was thinking about getting something different but wasn't sure how hokey it might look.
My old '93 4003S MGBT with magnetic horseshoe pickup. Traded away, but kept the horsey. The second is how it looked when it came and went.
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What's to justify? Start saving.... seriously.
They're not THAT expensive. It could be a Fodora or something. :
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