Righty Playing Lefty

Zoop Soup · #1 03-20-2013, 11:27 PM

I can almost hear the collective inhalation of breath at the title of this thread. "What kind of moron is this?" you may be saying. Well, to put it simply, a broke one.
My lefty friend has a bass that he doesn't use and he would be willing to lend it to me. The problem is, I'm right handed. How would this work out? I know left handed people can play right handed basses and I was wondering if that would translate to this. If I were to switch to right handed if I found this a passion I'd like to stick to, how hard would the transition be? I want to learn it and I'd like to be able to, but I'd like some input from you guys.

Thanks,
Will

Luke S Mouse · #2 03-21-2013, 12:05 AM

Just flip everything you know upside down
It'll probably take a few days to get used to playing with, just like the whole fretted to fretless conversion, but I'm sure you'll eventually get the hang of it.

two fingers · #3 03-21-2013, 12:07 AM

Or, you could just buy a new set of strings, flip the bass over, and string it right handed. Seems much easier to me. If the guy wants his bass back, put his old strings back on it. Done. Don't make things harder than they are.

Darren Low · #4 03-21-2013, 12:28 AM

I'm sure you'll get used to it eventually.

Stone Soup · #5 03-21-2013, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by two fingers

Or, you could just buy a new set of strings, flip the bass over, and string it right handed. Seems much easier to me. If the guy wants his bass back, put his old strings back on it. Done. Don't make things harder than they are.

It's not that simple. The nut needs to be changed.

khutch · #6 03-21-2013, 07:44 AM

Actually you use both hands to play a guitar or a piano or a clarinet or a .... I've long thought that the supposedly right handed guitars are actually left handed. Doesn't it make more sense to do the intricate fretwork with your dominant hand and the simpler rhythmic plucking work with your other hand? There are arguments both ways but it is at least arguable that the guitar norm is backwards with respect to handedness. Those of us who have played one way for years are not going to switch, naturally. Those who are just starting out could consider going against the grain and I am quite sure that it would work quite well for you. The only downside is this: just like your left handed brothers and sisters once you get used to a left handed bass and feel the urge to get another or a better you find yourself wandering in a wilderness of right handed basses with only the occasional left handed oasis. Most everything you lust after will be unavailable to you. You will some day bitterly realize the value of what I tell all beginners: just play a "right handed" instrument. The obvious left/right asymmetry of guitars gives the strong visual impression that they have a handedness to them but I am not sure they are truly any more hand centric than pianos or clarinets.

Ken

lug · #7 03-21-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by khutch

Actually you use both hands to play a guitar or a piano or a clarinet or a .... I've long thought that the supposedly right handed guitars are actually left handed. Doesn't it make more sense to do the intricate fretwork with your dominant hand and the simpler rhythmic plucking work with your other hand? There are arguments both ways but it is at least arguable that the guitar norm is backwards with respect to handedness.

Ken

The counter to the "intricate fingering" argument is that the dominant hand keeps time. You can fret at any point between two notes but you must strike correctly (or in my case, incorrectly). The truth will never be known!

PDQbass · #8 03-21-2013, 08:26 AM

To the OP, pretty simple to reverse strings, but you would have to change the nut round which might not please your friend. Better to a buy a cheapie R/H I would think.
As a lefty who was made to write with my right hand, and remembering the aggravation it caused me as child, when I came to learn the bass I did it my way, left-handed :-) Although it is true that not all basses are available in a left handed version many, including most of the standard 'Pro' instruments are, particularly now most of us are online. I think telling left-handed beginners to just learn right-handed, if the only criteria is the relative availability of the respective instruments, is a bit misguided if I may say so. There's more to it than that I think, speaking as a left hander.

oldleftybass · #9 03-21-2013, 10:09 AM

When I got on Leftybass I was surprised to learn that about 1/3 of the guys there play with "the big strings on the bottom"- either a lefty bass strung righty or just a righty upsidedown.

Most righties that learn to play lefty are in Beatles tribute bands!

cica · #10 03-21-2013, 10:17 AM

I would just mow a couple of lawns and find a righty bass for $75 on craigslist. You'll be much more limited later on because there are fewer lefty basses for sale. You also won't be able to sit in as easily if someone offers their bass to you. I'm a lefty, but I learned guitar righty.

Basshappi · #11 03-21-2013, 10:46 AM

You could play righty strung lefty.
You could flip the strings and nut to righthanded arrangement. I would recommend this arrangement so you are learning righthanded while saving up for a righthanded bass. There are many inexpensive basses avaiable these days so if you could get $100 - 200 together you can get a very decent bass in that price range.

Look for Squier, SX, Cort, Ibanez, Peavey, Yamaha and Epiphone basses.

Cheers!
B

Bassbubble11 · #12 03-21-2013, 10:50 AM

This thread is dumb........ Sorry but it is.

Orpheus55 · #13 03-21-2013, 10:54 AM

I started playing bass as a lefty, as that's how I did everything else. Back in '65, this was considered appalling by my music teacher who warned me I'd never find an affordable left-handed bass; so, I simpy played righty and have ever since. I've never lost the ability to play left, though I am slower now and righty seems more natural. Looking back, I think lefties look cooler and I'm tempted to revert, but at 62 this would probably be too new a trick for an old dog.

FrednBass · #14 03-21-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stone Soup

It's not that simple. The nut needs to be changed.

Not in some basses, it doesn't.

Stone Soup · #15 03-21-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FrednBass

Not in some basses, it doesn't.

Yes, in ALL basses.

Can we get a luthier in here?

exidor · #16 03-21-2013, 11:35 AM

I'm a lefty who plays righty & I wouldn't have it any other way.
just play around with it but don't make it your home on a lefty.when you can get a righty get one. for now I'd work on learning the fret board & some scales maybe play it flipped upside down.for me playing right handed seemed right from the start.I have two older brothers who play bass,from watching them over the years I had a idea of how things worked on bass, & when I picked it up I learned pretty fast.which bummed them both out.I say get a righty as soon as you can.

Nedmundo · #17 03-21-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lug

The counter to the "intricate fingering" argument is that the dominant hand keeps time. You can fret at any point between two notes but you must strike correctly (or in my case, incorrectly). The truth will never be known!

It's not just keeping time, it's about dynamics, which require more subtle control than fretting. Think about, for example, the extremely wide range of a concert violinist from the softest pianissimo to the most powerful fortissimo, and the control required for all the subtle gradations between. I think that's why the dominant hand picks, strums, bows, etc. on stringed instruments all over the world. I've played with several guitarists who play "backwards," and some of them have had extremely poor control of dynamics and/or poor picking technique. Not all, but some, including a righty who plays lefty because he thought the dominant hand should fret. I doubt it's a coincidence.

Richenbacher · #18 03-21-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by khutch

Actually you use both hands to play a guitar or a piano or a clarinet or a .... I've long thought that the supposedly right handed guitars are actually left handed. Doesn't it make more sense to do the intricate fretwork with your dominant hand and the simpler rhythmic plucking work with your other hand?

+1
I agree! I'm a lefty playing righty and I found that being left handed helped with my intonation on a fretless instrument. I have more control over where my fingers go. A right handed friend of mine never truly adjusted to the fretless. Might just have been different playing styles, but I do feel as though I have more control with my intonation.

pkstone · #19 03-21-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Soup

Yes, in ALL basses.

Can we get a luthier in here?

Not on a headless Steinberger; the nut -- or more properly, zero fret -- is symmetrical, with wider channels on the outer edge. Makes 'em easy to flip.

Stone Soup · #20 03-21-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pkstone

Not on a headless Steinberger; the nut -- or more properly, zero fret -- is symmetrical, with wider channels on the outer edge. Makes 'em easy to flip.

I'll take your word for it. I can't find a good photo of a Steinberger string retainer.

EDIT: Looks like the slots are matched to string width on this one.