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11-22-2010, 01:34 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull, Lakland, Aguilar, JH Audio | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Simi Valley, CA | | | Same tort pattern on two different Fenders?
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How are these pickguards made? I have a Jag and Mustang bass and the tort pattern is exactly the same on both. I'll admit, I have a little too much time on my hands to notice this, but still. Do all these basses have the same pattern?   |
11-22-2010, 01:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tifton,Georgia | | | It's not the same. look on the right side of the bass you'll see other markings missing fro mthe other. Very similar though.
I don't know how they make them. But my guess looking at it,it's almost like wood. They make a big block of the material then cut it,so like with that one you'd have majority of it looking the same as the yellow would travel through the block of brownish red almost like veins,so when you profile it you see the yellow spots.
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11-22-2010, 01:40 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull, Lakland, Aguilar, JH Audio | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Simi Valley, CA | | | But look right to the upper left of both pickups...and all around the pickups. The Jag guard is more detailed but it look the same to me... |
11-22-2010, 01:46 PM
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11-22-2010, 01:49 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull, Lakland, Aguilar, JH Audio | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Simi Valley, CA | | | That's what I thought...makes me wonder how they're made. I purchased these a year apart...and one came from AZ and one I got while on tour in Tampa. hmm |
11-22-2010, 01:49 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | In the old days, those swirls were created by literally mixing two different colors of plastic material with a comb-like "random swirling" device. Nowadays, for mass-production factory instruments, they just have a digital image of the tort pattern, and they print it onto a blank plastic sheet. |
11-22-2010, 01:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton | | | Perhaps they slice it off of a hunk of tortloaf. Deli style. |
11-22-2010, 01:51 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | ^^^ That's a better answer.  |
11-22-2010, 01:52 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull, Lakland, Aguilar, JH Audio | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Simi Valley, CA | | | That makes sense. Cool...makes them almost identical twins. :-) |
11-22-2010, 01:55 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | AAAHHH!!! They're CLONING tort!!!
Put on your tinfoil hats and run for the hills!!! 
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11-22-2010, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston, TX | | | Hehe, "tortloaf..."
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11-22-2010, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Huge Perhaps they slice it off of a hunk of tortloaf. Deli style. | hahahaha
seriously though, i think the tort pattern is photo-etched onto the pickguard material, whatever it is. There are *very* few manufacturers making it old-style anymore, but some of the imaged tort looks really good up close. And some of it looks like crap, you can see the pixels. Depends on the manufacturer.
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11-22-2010, 05:23 PM
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I love it.
It's a sure bet that these identical guards aren't real tort -- real tort meaning real synthetic tort with the layer of red & amber celluloid swirled together. They're just vinyl with the tort pattern printed on. Real celluloid tort is actually a 3D effect because the the celluloid layer has some depth. It's not just a 2D print. |
11-22-2010, 05:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portland, OR | | | Off topic, but OP I see you are the bass player for Tyrone Wells. Did you by chance go to school at Hope International University?
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11-22-2010, 05:51 PM
| | | | The Fender tort guard I puchased a couple years ago for my jazz is certainly NOT "photo tort". Nor is the one I put on my Precison that I sold. Both were "62 RI" branded guards from Fender. I KNOW the tort on the Squires are phony, as they're obviously one dimensional. I think you have a rare instance of two sheets of tort being cut super close to each other and winding up in the same owners hands. These were made for each other! Of course the "photo tort" could also be a possibility, but I've never seen them on true Fender instruments. |
11-22-2010, 06:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | The whole tortloaf cut makes sense. Probability wise, it's small, but I DO think that both of then were probably adjacent slices on the tortloaf. It's feasible, both are MIJ so that tortloaf theory works out. If they were manufactured in different countries, it would be the printed on kind. IMO
I BELIEVE IN THE TORTLOAF.
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11-22-2010, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Huge Perhaps they slice it off of a hunk of tortloaf. Deli style. | im with Huge here. all i can think of now is a big slice of some crazy cheese-meat.
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11-22-2010, 06:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Melbourne | | | the 'tort' on all Japanese Fenders is 'printed', if you look through a Fender japan catalogue you quickly recognize the patterns. |
11-22-2010, 06:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portland, OR | | | I BELIEVE IN THE TORTLOAF!
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11-22-2010, 07:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Parke County, Indiana | | | I had a tortloaf sandwich today for lunch. It was delicious | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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