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Old 11-22-2010, 01:34 PM
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Same tort pattern on two different Fenders?

How are these pickguards made? I have a Jag and Mustang bass and the tort pattern is exactly the same on both. I'll admit, I have a little too much time on my hands to notice this, but still. Do all these basses have the same pattern?


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It's not the same. look on the right side of the bass you'll see other markings missing fro mthe other. Very similar though.

I don't know how they make them. But my guess looking at it,it's almost like wood. They make a big block of the material then cut it,so like with that one you'd have majority of it looking the same as the yellow would travel through the block of brownish red almost like veins,so when you profile it you see the yellow spots.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:40 PM
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But look right to the upper left of both pickups...and all around the pickups. The Jag guard is more detailed but it look the same to me...
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It is identical--the "differences" are where the controls plates and other cutouts are.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:49 PM
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That's what I thought...makes me wonder how they're made. I purchased these a year apart...and one came from AZ and one I got while on tour in Tampa. hmm
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In the old days, those swirls were created by literally mixing two different colors of plastic material with a comb-like "random swirling" device. Nowadays, for mass-production factory instruments, they just have a digital image of the tort pattern, and they print it onto a blank plastic sheet.
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Perhaps they slice it off of a hunk of tortloaf. Deli style.
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^^^ That's a better answer.
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That makes sense. Cool...makes them almost identical twins. :-)
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AAAHHH!!! They're CLONING tort!!!


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Hehe, "tortloaf..."
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Perhaps they slice it off of a hunk of tortloaf. Deli style.
hahahaha

seriously though, i think the tort pattern is photo-etched onto the pickguard material, whatever it is. There are *very* few manufacturers making it old-style anymore, but some of the imaged tort looks really good up close. And some of it looks like crap, you can see the pixels. Depends on the manufacturer.
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TORTLOAF!!

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It's a sure bet that these identical guards aren't real tort -- real tort meaning real synthetic tort with the layer of red & amber celluloid swirled together. They're just vinyl with the tort pattern printed on. Real celluloid tort is actually a 3D effect because the the celluloid layer has some depth. It's not just a 2D print.
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Off topic, but OP I see you are the bass player for Tyrone Wells. Did you by chance go to school at Hope International University?
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The Fender tort guard I puchased a couple years ago for my jazz is certainly NOT "photo tort". Nor is the one I put on my Precison that I sold. Both were "62 RI" branded guards from Fender. I KNOW the tort on the Squires are phony, as they're obviously one dimensional. I think you have a rare instance of two sheets of tort being cut super close to each other and winding up in the same owners hands. These were made for each other! Of course the "photo tort" could also be a possibility, but I've never seen them on true Fender instruments.
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The whole tortloaf cut makes sense. Probability wise, it's small, but I DO think that both of then were probably adjacent slices on the tortloaf. It's feasible, both are MIJ so that tortloaf theory works out. If they were manufactured in different countries, it would be the printed on kind. IMO

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Perhaps they slice it off of a hunk of tortloaf. Deli style.
im with Huge here. all i can think of now is a big slice of some crazy cheese-meat.
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the 'tort' on all Japanese Fenders is 'printed', if you look through a Fender japan catalogue you quickly recognize the patterns.
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I had a tortloaf sandwich today for lunch. It was delicious
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