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01-23-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by the wako kid I'm talking about his work with motley crue. his bass lines are bland and I don't like them. get over it. that being said, I think some of his songwriting is decent. it just doesn't make sense to me to put out a signature model for someone(actually about 5 models) when their basslines are totally forgettable. it makes sense for geddy lee and marcus miller to have signature basses,but not nikki. | Geddy and Marcus are much better players...I agree...
however you couldn't be more wrong..
Rush has sold almost 40 million records world wide
Marcus Miller has been the bassist on over 500 records but your talking Jazz and R and B....much smaller group of people buy these records....his total records sales as a solo artist barely break the 20 million unit mark, at that is only because Renaissance sold six million units by itself...
in terms of sheer Branding POWER it makes much more sense for NIKKI SIXX to have a signature bass...than either Geddy or Marcus...lol
Hell Even bands Like Fall Out Boy have sold more records than Marcus has (as a solo artist)...and you will note Pete Wentz has a signature model as well..lol (one of Squiers best sellers..) and we all know Pete can't play right?..lol
Sadly it's not about how well you can play (talent) in the marketing business....it's about how many people you can reach and how many people know who you are....
walk up to just about any punk kid on the street and ask them who Marcus Miller is...you'll probably get a blank stare.....ask them who NIKKI SIXX is and you will likely get a response...isn't he that guy that dated Kat Von D? etc...
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01-23-2013, 07:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Nikki Sixx Rules ! Motley Crue Rules (o.k. ruled) ! Lol ! I can't help it. I graduated in '88.
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01-23-2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by smcd This bass has an MSRP of $1,400, which will amount to a street price of $999. A grand for an import bass?? How many do you think will sell at this price point? This bass will be dropped from the Schecter line in under a year. | In my opinion, most of Schecter's bass lineup is overpriced.
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01-23-2013, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Snakeman1066 After all it's not like HE HASN'T SOLD OVER 80 Million records!..lol | After all, he hasn't.
RIAA has Mötley Crüe at 23.5 million - still a lot, though. | 
01-23-2013, 08:03 PM
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01-23-2013, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player After all, he hasn't.
RIAA has Mötley Crüe at 23.5 million - still a lot, though. | After all, he HAS. That 23.5MM number is US sales ONLY. Motley Crue has sold 80MM records worldwide. | 
01-23-2013, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Snakeman1066
Sadly it's not about how well you can play (talent) in the marketing business....it's about how many people you can reach and how many people know who you are....
walk up to just about any punk kid on the street and ask them who Marcus Miller is...you'll probably get a blank stare.....ask them who NIKKI SIXX is and you will likely get a response...isn't he that guy that dated Kat Von D? etc... | It's not entirely about marketing. It's about what is being marketed. You could put the best marketing agency on the planet behind Marcus Miller, and he won't sell any more records than he has. The kids/young adults who buy records aren't interested in Marcus Miller's music, and couldn't be talked into listening to it at gunpoint.
Think about this - It's 1989. You're 22 years old and walking down the street. You see 2 bars next to each other. One is playing Marcus Miller, the other, Crue. Which is gonna be a better time? Where do you think the girls are gonna be?? | 
01-23-2013, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by smcd After all, he HAS. That 23.5MM number is US sales ONLY. Motley Crue has sold 80MM records worldwide. | I doubt it. The usual "rule-of-thumb" is to double U.S. Sales. The U.S. is about 40% of the worldwide album market.
But, please feel free to post legitimate stats. Tiger Beat magazine numbers don't count.  | 
01-23-2013, 10:11 PM
| | | | I've been holding off, but I'll say it: I like the way it looks. But I don't love it. | 
01-23-2013, 10:21 PM
| | | | was kind of excited for this until i saw a full pic, then i was a bit underwhelmed. it's cool that it's being offered lefty, but even then i wont go for it. the electronics, while good, are not what i want out of a t-bird or t-bird styled bass. i want dual 'bucker big bad bass tone. i have enough p-j basses. hoping gibson really is doing a lefty run of basses. i'd much rather fork out the extra cash for the real deal rather than a so-so lookalike.
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01-23-2013, 10:25 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Valley | | | every source i can find says they have sold 80 million worldwide..
lol you can argue all you want..between the SIXX AM Project, The Brides of Destruction and Motley...the man has sold a lot of damn records..lol
if your looking at just the stats for the six studio records...your missing greatest hits, and compilations...and singles
Motley alone has had in the U.S. seven platinum or multi-platinum albums, 22 top 40 mainstream rock hits, six top 20 pop singles, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and three Grammy nominations for Best Hard Rock Performance...
the bass is still bland
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01-23-2013, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player I doubt it. The usual "rule-of-thumb" is to double U.S. Sales. The U.S. is about 40% of the worldwide album market.
But, please feel free to post legitimate stats. Tiger Beat magazine numbers don't count.  | when it comes to market "tastes", there is no rule of thumb. A LOT of "western" movie stars/music/etc do way better sales in foreign markets, than they do in domestic.
and you contradict yourself by talking about blanket generalizations and then following that with asking for legit stats.
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01-24-2013, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Toptube when it comes to market "tastes", there is no rule of thumb. A LOT of "western" movie stars/music/etc do way better sales in foreign markets, than they do in domestic.
and you contradict yourself by talking about blanket generalizations and then following that with asking for legit stats. | For the win.
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01-24-2013, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by alembicguy Do you mean Schecter?? | Excuse me one minute while I find a jar to put all this surplus smugness into!
Looks like a squarer, more marshmallow T-bird.
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01-24-2013, 07:21 AM
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01-24-2013, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player I doubt it. The usual "rule-of-thumb" is to double U.S. Sales. The U.S. is about 40% of the worldwide album market.
But, please feel free to post legitimate stats. Tiger Beat magazine numbers don't count.  | You're talking total nonsense. If you care to make that point, prove it, don't make unsubstantiated, smug remarks. But I suppose that's all you've got. | 
01-24-2013, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Toptube when it comes to market "tastes", there is no rule of thumb. A LOT of "western" movie stars/music/etc do way better sales in foreign markets, than they do in domestic.
and you contradict yourself by talking about blanket generalizations and then following that with asking for legit stats. | Just trying to help FandBoy pad his numbers. Still waiting for some real numbers, though. Quote:
Originally Posted by smcd You're talking total nonsense. If you care to make that point, prove it, don't make unsubstantiated, smug remarks. But I suppose that's all you've got. | As far as "nonsense", that's all that you've offered. I'm simply asking for you to back up your made-up number. Post anything - a link to Teen Beat mag, People mag, something... | 
01-24-2013, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player Just trying to help FandBoy pad his numbers. Still waiting for some real numbers, though.
As far as "nonsense", that's all that you've offered. I'm simply asking for you to back up your made-up number. Post anything - a link to Teen Beat mag, People mag, something... | https://www.google.com/search?q=motl...ient=firefox-a
I'm not sure why you don't believe that they have sold that many albums. They were huge in the 80's and still relevant in the early 90's. In the 00's to present, everybody knows who they are. Also keep in mind that metal is WAY more popular in EU than it is in the US. Where are all of the huge metal festivals? Not here, that's for sure. Motley Crue has headlined a few of them.
From their website: Vocalist Vince Neil, guitarist Mick Mars, bassist Nikki Sixx and drummer Tommy Lee have commandeered the rock pantheon for 30 years now and yet, Mötley Crüe’s rock royalty emanates with as much kickass iridescent relevance in the millennium as it did in the 1980s. The Crüe’s bragging rights comprise worldwide album sales exceeding 80 million—25 million in the U.S.—seven platinum or multi-platinum albums, 22 top 40 mainstream rock hits, six top 20 pop singles, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, three Grammy nominations for Best Hard Rock Performance, a New York Times bestselling memoir, and tours logging more than 1,350 live gigs across the globe, to date. The band’s output encompasses nine studio and two live albums, six compilation CDs, three box sets, nine DVDs, and 24 singles with accompanying music videos.
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01-24-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by smcd Boring and cheesy. Just awful. | I would extend that to cover the whole of Motley Crue's musical contribution. Sure they might sell bazillions of records, but then many bazillions of tins of Spam have been sold, and it is never going to be mistaken for real meat is it.
Still, logical fallacies aside....
My girlfriend like MC quite a lot and likes it when I play Doctor Feelgood (the song not the dodgy pub rock band) on geetar. 
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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw https://www.google.com/search?q=motl...ient=firefox-a
I'm not sure why you don't believe that they have sold that many albums. They were huge in the 80's and still relevant in the early 90's. In the 00's to present, everybody knows who they are. Also keep in mind that metal is WAY more popular in EU than it is in the US. Where are all of the huge metal festivals? Not here, that's for sure. Motley Crue has headlined a few of them.
From their website: Vocalist Vince Neil, guitarist Mick Mars, bassist Nikki Sixx and drummer Tommy Lee have commandeered the rock pantheon for 30 years now and yet, Mötley Crüe’s rock royalty emanates with as much kickass iridescent relevance in the millennium as it did in the 1980s. The Crüe’s bragging rights comprise worldwide album sales exceeding 80 million—25 million in the U.S.—seven platinum or multi-platinum albums, 22 top 40 mainstream rock hits, six top 20 pop singles, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, three Grammy nominations for Best Hard Rock Performance, a New York Times bestselling memoir, and tours logging more than 1,350 live gigs across the globe, to date. The band’s output encompasses nine studio and two live albums, six compilation CDs, three box sets, nine DVDs, and 24 singles with accompanying music videos. | Thanks! That's all I was ever asking for - even though it is from their own site. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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