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03-10-2013, 02:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Mill Bay, BC Canada | | short scale for tone????? The following comes from sweetwater.com and along with an accomplished bassist I talked with last night, it seems that the short scale is what I'm looking for. Phil Lesh's tone is my ideal and that full, fat, ( might I say, bulbous, billowing, deep bell like tone) seems to come from such a bass.
I have a luthier friend who will be looking for a used short scale bass with quality neck and body that I can add the pickups to.
I need advice on strings and I'm leaning towards EMG's as I had them in a P-Bass I had years ago before I got serious about learning the bass, as I have become today. I may as well open that active vs passive can of worms for discussion as well? Passive more rounded, warm, natural??
Copied from sweetwater site;
"However, many studios pros have long known a secret about the sound of short scale basses. The shorter strings demand lower string tension to be properly tuned. This gives the strings a kind of soft and floppy feeling but it also creates fatter, “blooming” low notes and what musicians perceive as sweet upper notes.
In the 1960s, short scale basses were more popular, but many were generally cheap student models with narrow string spacing and poor tone. As a result, many bassists got a bad impression of them. Although many bassists find the closer spacing of the frets more comfortable to play, for various reasons (sound not the least of them), long scale basses have remained more popular since the introduction of the first Fender Precision Bass in 1951. With the exceptions of the Ampeg/Dan Armstrong “See-Thru” basses and a few special order Alembics, there aren’t many professional-quality short scale basses on the market today."
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03-10-2013, 04:28 PM
|  | Groovologist | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Erie, PA | | | I put some D'addario ProSteels on my Mustang last week and the tone is exactly what I've been looking for. I know a lot of people like flats on their shorties, tho.
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03-10-2013, 05:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle, WA | | | there are WAY more short scales on the market currently than just ampeg and alembic. gibson is the obvious one, they make a ton of them. I commonly find several decent quality short scales in most music stores. you could also just look at the type of bass used by phil lesh on your favorite dead recordings and then attempt to recreate it.
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03-10-2013, 06:05 PM
|  | Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion. | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio | | | Pyramid Golds are the strings for me.
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03-10-2013, 06:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Burlington, Vt. | | | Though I'm not a big fan of TI flats for most uses, they do work great on my short-scale Gibsons.
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03-10-2013, 07:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Mystic CT | | | I put a set of D'addario ground wounds on a friends Mikro and was simply stunned at the solid tone...
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03-10-2013, 07:29 PM
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03-10-2013, 07:38 PM
|  | Walter Woods or Aguilar to LDS - the best! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NE Ohio | | | TI Jazz Flats on a Mustang gets the tone you seek. Roll back the tone control about halfway to all the way to taste.
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03-11-2013, 07:54 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kennesaw, Georgia | | | I use GHS Pressurewound Flats Bass Strings on my shorties (Gibson T-Bird, Gretsch Jupiter and Fender Mustang basses). They make a nice RR sound with a lot less noise.
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03-11-2013, 07:58 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado | | | Short scale basses have different overtones ... less treble and less high mids.
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03-11-2013, 10:34 AM
|  | Just days from retirement. | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lincoln, NE | | | Have flats or tapes on all my shorties.
I use GHS Precision, Brite, and Tapes. D'Addario Flats and Tapes, LaBella Beatles Bass Flats and Tapes.
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03-11-2013, 10:54 AM
|  | I play electric tuba. | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio | | | D'addario medium Chromes on an SX short scale P bass. Sounds like a P bass.
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