So, I'm thinking about trading my warwick for a spector. y/n?
So, this april I got a German Warwick $$ and after always wanting one, I still just am not that crazy about it.
I generally use both pickups on the single coil split position and a blend of slightly more bridge pickup. Sometimes for more rocky stuff i'll put the bridge pickup on series and the same blend. I like it, but at the same time, I've been wanting a spector NS or a Warwick Streamer more. To me I feel like the a spector will set in the mix a little better and be a perfect workmans bass and work with more different styles of music. For that reason I've been considering trading my 07 warwick $$ for a spector Euro Lx. I'm really just wondering if value and money wise if that is a good idea. The spector Euro LX is a neckthrough body deisgin with a contoured body and flamed top so seems to be a better deal. I'm just wondering if the craftsmanship of their Euro basses which if I'm not wrong are czech-made, as in Czechoslovakia and have rosewood necks, brass frets and nut, one piece bridge and emg pickups. I used to have a korean made spector that I thought sounded great and had emg's, but at the same time I had A german Warwick Corvette standard fretless and it was amazing. I liked that '02 corvette standard fretless more than the German $$ I have now. Maybe it was the bubinga and Ebony fretboard that made it special. Anyways, if you're still reading this please let me know if I'm stupid for wanting to get a straight trade for these basses. http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store...92-i3015171.gc
I had a Spector Euro 4 LX which was made in Czechoslovakia. It played very well and had decent tone. The problem that I had with it was that the active circuitry did not have a trim pot. As a result, it was too "hot" and always sounded like it was "farting" through my cabs. Some later models do have trim pots so if you decide to get a Spector, I was suggest making sure that it has a trim pot.
Hmmm. I've never heard that one thanks. So, I was also wondering if anyone could tell me what are the best spector models for their value. Like the best bang for their buck. I want it to be neck through and at least as nice as my german warwick. Also, can anyone tell me if there's any other basses in that price point that I should consider. My friend has an 86 Ibanez musician four string that is neck through and amazing. When it got stolen I found it in a local pawn shop for 500...If it wasn't my best friends I would have bought it for myself because it is NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE! I've been looking for a simlar one, but haven't found any for sale.
Between 2 basses I used to own, a Warwick LX5 (MEC jazz pickups and active EQ) and a Spector Euro 5 (EMGs, I forget the model prolly jazz, active EQ), I'd take the Warwick every time. They were both heavy, I liked the unfinished neck on the Warwick vs. the heavy glossy poly of the Spector, and the Warwick had good growl while the Spector (by comparison) sounded sterile. I in no way am claiming every Warwick LX5 is superior to every Spector Euro 5. That said if you have a bass you don't like and it has decent trade value for something you want to check out that also has decent trade value, go for it.
That's a tough one. I love Spectors and I have a Warwick Streamer Jazzman. However my Spectors are USA H2 (bolt on) models so they are a little different than the Euro Spectors.
Either way, the only dig I have on Spector is the EMG pickups. I find them very sterile and they don't work well at all with dirt pedals. I replaced the EMG's in both of my Spectors. I put DiMarzio Area J's in my NS2j and a Bartolini MM in my NS-5MM. Made quite an improvement.
On the other hand, my Warwick Streamer would really benefit from a new preamp. The stock MEC preamp has a bright, clangy sound and sounds much better bypassed but that offers no controls.
You may just be wanting an electronics upgrade for your Warwick.
Well, I guess I didn't really mention the beefs I have with it. I actually really really like it. But, I also think there are better basses for me. Like I really like the way streamers and spector ns's look. I like a contoured body. I really like both the warwick streamer and spector, the latter being the original. I also think that a p/j configuration is the most versatile. I also think that rosewood sounds more classic and is more versatile than the wenge sound of warwicks. I love that sound though, so I figure that I ought to get the flagship of warwicks line, a thumb neck-through. And since spectors are the original I might as well get a spector neck through p/j ns. Should I be looking at us versions or is this ssd version any good or are euro lx's the beez kneez when it comes to value?
As an owner of a 1998 Warwick Thumb BO5 with a wenge/wenge neck and three Spector basses (a Rex5 pro neck thru, a Woodstock NS2J bolt on and a Euro LX4 neck thru) I can share my observations. All three sound very different from each other and quite different from the Warwick.
My Warwick has a very distinct deep growl and grit to it and a somewhat woody tone. By comparison the Rex5 has tremendous lows much deeper than the thumb and a little less top end than the thumb but every bit as much growl and grit when you dig in on the strings. I like to use my Warwick for classic metal and old school hard rock (think Black Sabbath) and find the Rex a better fit for more modern hard rock and metal (like Alice in Chains). By contrast the My Euro which does not have a trim pot is much more sterile and bright and very mid and upper mid focused. It's my least favorite Spector, but still a great bass. The Woodstock NS2J on the other hand is a totally different beast. Think of it as a Fender Jazz on steroids. It goes deeper, higher, smoother and dirtier than any Fender Jazz I own.
If you consider buying used you'll pay about $500 for a Rex5 pro and have a very complementary bass to a Warwick Thumb BO5. It's a huge bang for the buck. The Euro LX used will run closer to $1000 and will be a far departure from the typical Thumb sound. A used USA Bolt on Spector (if you can find one) will run upwards of $1500 and is an extremely versatile bass that's well worth the money, new or used.
Jump on over to the Spector club thread and post your questions there for even more and probably better advice.
i just picked up a corvette $$ myself. of my 4 basses it is my favorite. i can't imagine letting it go.:bassist:
I actually really do like my warwick, but I guess I want a spector that could sit in the mix a little better. I love the growl and tone, but I can't really afford to have two really high end basses at the moment. The thing is, ideally I would have an early thumb neckthrough and an american specotr p/j ns type bass. The value of warwicks are freaking awesome, but I wanna get a thumb anyways
Sounds like you're not very happy with the Warwick and sold on trying out something else. Flip it and move on, sometimes we just can't connect to an instrument no matter how hard we try.
Of course, at the same time, you just bought it four months ago. Might need just a little longer to let it get under your skin.
As far as sitting in the mix, isn't that more of a studio trick? Some of these kids these days with their fancy recording tricks make me feel so goddamn old and incompetent, even if they're using the most basic of instruments and gear. I'm sure you could tweak what you need out of something as awesome as that $$.
Why not keep both?
I just picked up a Euro 5. It's under 9 lbs, neck through, active EMGs, Tonepump (non-trim pot) rosewood/maple, and it plays smooth. I can get mellow tones and dirty tones. I had a Corvette Standard active 5 German, and I couldn't dig the MEC sound (plus it weighed 12 lbs) - so I got rid of it. I haven't tried a Thumb, but would like to one day. Variety is good. :)
To the op-
Some of the comments you've made, make it seem as though you're basing your decision on which instrument you want, by the looks, and by things you've read/heard.
I absolutely understand how difficult it can be to try out basses before you buy them. Especially Warwick's and Spector's.
I think you should keep your Warwick and either try changing the electronics, or keep your Warwick, and buy a different bass.
You said you've found more than one sound on the $$ that you like. Chances are, that bass will become usable to you at some point.
If I had $100 for every bass I've sold, and later found the perfect use for, I could order a brand new Warwick.
Just something to think about.
I don't care for the Warwick neck profile personally (I've heard they offer a new profile now..any truth to that?), so I can't really comment on them but I do love my Spector Euro 6. The construction is top notch. The woods are sweet, neck is really fast and it hugs me in that special way (read:all the contours are awesome). I just got it back from the shop (crown, polish, level, ect) and I'm in love all over again. I've played it in everything from death metal to country and have always been complimented on my tones.
I will suggest getting rid of the TonePump pre if you get a Spector with one. Trim pot or not, they are pretty bad imho. I'm a Demeter guy myself and the Spector loves it.
Good luck with whichever you choose.
They're different animals for sure. Every Warwick bass I've played has had an inherent woody tone, if you truly dig that aspect I'd stick with some variety of Warwick. It seems that you like to favor the bridge pickup, for this reason a Thumb bass may be perfect for you although, for some, they can be an ergonomic nightmare.
Spectors seem have a similar neck profile although I can't comment on the 4 string versions. The tone is more hi-fi and sparkly with focus in the high mids. They balance nicely and feel great. I think the magic in the P/J setup comes from favoring the neck pickup to add some body or keeping the pickups balanced.
I take it that you generally like the tone and feel of your $$? Maybe try playing with the EQ on your amp a bit or in a rock setting adding a bit of overdrive. If you're looking for a particular tone, which players do you like? Are there any tones that you'd like to try to emulate? Sometimes something as simple as a string change can yield the difference that makes your bass a keeper.
That being said... Get a Spector!
I own a German Corvette 5 $$ and a Euro Spector 4 and have to say, they are pretty much each at the opposite end of the tone spectrum. The Corvette is a growling, beast while the Spector is like a refined sports car. I really like them both and use them for different things. Hard to choose one over the other unless you can compare them directly.
To the OP, if the Corvette just isn't working for you, the Spector may be the ticket.
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