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View Poll Results: SPEAKONs ON BASSES? | |
Yes
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No
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Maybe
|    | 15 | 15.79% | |
1/4" 4 lyfe dawg
|    | 16 | 16.84% |
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11-23-2012, 02:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO | | | SPEAKONS ON BASSES?
Would you swap your 1/4" on your bass for a speakon? There seems to be jacks small enough to fit in some basses. No more stepping on and unplugging(if you dont already run your cable through your strap loop) and no more rattle/bumping crackle that some people get. Its theoretical but possible and sounds cool. |
11-23-2012, 02:26 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Genz Benz Amplification | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nashville | | | They already make locking 1/4" output jacks. No need to put a 3/4" hole in your bass. It's an $8 part and two minutes with a soldering iron. |
11-23-2012, 02:28 AM
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Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | Neutrik makes locking ¼-inch jacks. They're a lot less obtrusive than Speakons.  
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11-23-2012, 02:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO | | | Wow. Eyes open now. Haha. If you stick that into your bass do you need new plugs for your instrument cable? |
11-23-2012, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA  Wow. Eyes open now. Haha. If you stick that into your bass do you need new plugs for your instrument cable? | No, just plug in with a normal jack. The locking is all in the socket (the red button is the release).
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11-23-2012, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SoVeryTired No, just plug in with a normal jack. The locking is all in the socket (the red button is the release). | Awesome. Thanks |
11-23-2012, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA No more stepping on and unplugging | There are two things to say about this. First off, that's a safety feature. It is better that the cable should pull out of the jack than the jack pull out of the bass, stripping holes and potentially splitting wood. In any case, people usually loop their cables around the straplock to prevent damage, whether the jack is locking or not. Second, Speakon is a rather absurd choice for several reasons. What you want is the aforementioned locking 1/4" jack, not some other type of connector. A major issue with Speakon, XLR, DIN5, etc., -aside from being nonstandard, and thus, requiring specialized cables to be available and functional any time you play the bass- is that the connector does not rotate freely. This tends to lead to twisted cables. 1/4" connectors are definitely the preference, but failing that, perhaps a BNC connector or something would be the best choice.
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11-23-2012, 03:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by line6man There are two things to say about this. First off, that's a safety feature. It is better that the cable should pull out of the jack than the jack pull out of the bass, stripping holes and potentially splitting wood. In any case, people usually loop their cables around the straplock to prevent damage, whether the jack is locking or not. Second, Speakon is a rather absurd choice for several reasons. What you want is the aforementioned locking 1/4" jack, not some other type of connector. A major issue with Speakon, XLR, DIN5, etc., -aside from being nonstandard, and thus, requiring specialized cables to be available and functional any time you play the bass- is that the connector does not rotate freely. This tends to lead to twisted cables. 1/4" connectors are definitely the preference, but failing that, perhaps a BNC connector or something would be the best choice. |
Hm. Good point. Speakon=bad |
11-23-2012, 07:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Land of Lakland | | | why reinvent the wheel?? |
11-23-2012, 07:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fair Haven, MI | | | Speakon connectors are used for speaker level applications and are not shielded for use as an instrument connector. I have used Neutrik locking 1/4" jacks and IMO that is the best instrument connector available.
The poster who mentioned that Speakons can't rotate freely also had a good point, to prevent tangling 1/4" jacks and plugs are the standard on guitars for these reasons.
Speakons "claim to fame" is that they have much higher current capability (not necessary for instrument level connections) and that they are insulated when disconnected to prevent shock hazard and to protect amplifier output stages (also unnecessary for signal level due to guitars very low voltage and current levels *even with active electronics).
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11-23-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GM60466 why reinvent the wheel?? | To create something that's even more round. One day I'll find the secret, then you'll all be sorry.
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11-23-2012, 08:29 AM
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11-23-2012, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesblaster you forgot the sinister laugh | I'm saving it.
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11-23-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bassmeknik Speakon connectors are used for speaker level applications and are not shielded for use as an instrument connector. | There's that, too. That is an issue if you're trying to keep your signal path within a complete Faraday cage from start to finish, but in practice, it is difficult to do that to begin with, considering that pickups are usually unshielded. I wouldn't think the small opening in the cage would make a huge difference, though. Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVeryTired To create something that's even more round. One day I'll find the secret, then you'll all be sorry. | Extend it into three dimensions as a sphere. The secret is the implicit function x 2+y 2+z 2=1. |
11-23-2012, 11:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | Hi Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfreq33 They already make locking 1/4" output jacks. No need to put a 3/4" hole in your bass. It's an $8 part and two minutes with a soldering iron. | Pic please.
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11-23-2012, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Bird Hi
Pic please.
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11-23-2012, 09:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | Hi. Quote:
Originally Posted by line6man | ? That's a Speakon.
My desire was for a pic of a locking 1/4" jack with smaller installation OD than 3/4". The one lowfreq33 talked about. Quote:
Originally Posted by smperry It's in post #3 | Nope, it isn't.
That's the regular 3/4" D-flange panel mounting locking jack I've been using because I haven't found anything smaller=tidier=easier to install.
It IS the best jack I've found so far, but on thin, heavily rounded edge bodies, it's really distractive looking. Not to mention the task of drilling that 3/4" hole on the side of the body.
IMHO anyway.
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11-23-2012, 10:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Prescott, AZ & Hollywood, CA | | | If something had to give, I'd rather the cord unplug from the jack than rip the jack out of the bass.
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11-23-2012, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Bird
Nope, it isn't.
That's the regular 3/4" D-flange panel mounting locking jack I've been using because I haven't found anything smaller=tidier=easier to install.
It IS the best jack I've found so far, but on thin, heavily rounded edge bodies, it's really distractive looking. Not to mention the task of drilling that 3/4" hole on the side of the body.
IMHO anyway.
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Sam
| Oh gotcha....my mistake!
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