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Old 07-19-2012, 03:17 PM
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This is the rebop he wants to trade for a four string euro or ns2a.....without the American bridge, I think. It has the brass American bridge on it now
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:31 PM
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My friend with the natural 2002 rebop five with the newly installed American brass bridge wants to go back to a four string. He is looking to trade or trade plus or minus cash for a four string euro or ns2a. Upgraded are the bridge and he has a newer tone pump with trim he could include. Let me know if interested. It's the same bass John has with the bridge upgraded. I am getting pictures. Message me if interested
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:46 PM
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Great. Now I want a Harmonist too. It was like listening to old Peter Gabriel.

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Listen to the first 55 seconds of this: http://soundcloud.com/trailight/a-brief-instant

That's just something I came up with and used the Harmonist for.



A much comprehensive explanation here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZYt8PJDCZs
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:47 PM
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This is the rebop he wants to trade for a four string euro or ns2a.....without the American bridge, I think. It has the brass American bridge on it now
Yeah, that's definitely the Euro Aluminum bridge on it in the pic. Would be interested to see it with the American.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:48 PM
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Great. Now I want a Harmonist too. It was like listening to old Peter Gabriel.
It's been a pedal GAS filled day for everyone here!
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:56 PM
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Thank you! It's very very simple:



This is how I play 90% of the time when I need some grit. I turn the grit loop off (which consists only of the M-80) when I want a clean tone.
My SVT 4-Pro has the exact settings as the Bass Mid and Treb on the M-80.

And this is how I loop things:



One pedal is missing, the Morpheus Divebomb
Wow, he even shares his settings? this club rawks I love you Man
Take Care,
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:56 PM
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Hey everyone! I was shocked to get the ARC6 I purchased from the Guitar Center in Seattle on Monday late yesterday afternoon. I figured at best it might be here today or tomorrow. So it was a good day yesterday. It was a new Spector day for me.

Some things to ponder... this is the first time I've ever bought an expensive guitar or bass sight unseen. And it's funny what I found.
  • This guitar has obviously been in storage. It's a NAMM Show 2010 Guitar. It doesn't have a mark on it. It looks as if it was never played. No sign that the finish has been touched by human hands.
  • It does show signs that at some point it was subject to excessive heat for a long period of time.
  • The glue under the frets got hot enough to melt and seep out from under the frets onto the neck and fingerboard in several places. Heat will cause the nature oils of the wood to seep out as the wood looses moisture. This reacts with the glue and the glue is pushed out of the wood.
  • And the finish... this is the real giveaway... these guitars are sanded smooth then gloss coated. So they should have a relatively even (smooth) gloss coat.

When you can look at the surface and there's ripples in the gloss clear coat where the wood has shrunk due to having the moisture pulled out of it (or in a lot of cases too much moisture in the air and the wood has swollen)... there's a good indication that the guitar in question has experienced excessive heat like being left in the trunk of your car for a month during the heat of the summer or being stored for two years in your garage or attic.
  • Different areas of the wood top shrink at a different rates.
  • More dense areas take longer to loose the moisture and because they are packed tighter with the cellular material of the tree wood, they "deflate" down less than the more porous areas which are less dense.

In short, you can look at this guitar from the front and it's amazing. Look at the top from an angle in the right light to catch the reflection and the clear coat is rippled (in a way that's consistent with the wavy pattern of the quilt). This type of rippling is usually consistent with the guitar being exposed to too much moisture or not enough.
  • Because this guitar came from Seattle, a notoriously damp area... I would have first bet this guitar was stored somewhere really humid.
  • But in it's case were several of the silica moisture traps. So... when I noticed the fret glue I knew immediately that heat was the culprit.
  • There's no visible shrinkage of the neck or fingerboard because being solid Rosewood (which is packed with natural oils and really hard to dehydrate which is why it's a great material for necks) it seemed to escape the effects that ravaged the more delicate Maple top.

The issues from the mistreatment of this guitar in it's past are nothing more than cosmetic at this point. The neck and body are slowly adjusting to the climate-controlled environment in my office. So pretty soon the moisture will be normalized and the wood will be healthy again. The ripples in the finish will never go away. But this doesn't really affect the tone or playability.

The neck was set with a very minimal amount of relief. The strings were a little high for my taste. And with the Pigtail bridge that's an easy adjustment. Just unscrew or screw in the side of the bridge that needs adjustment with the strings under tension using a large flat-head screw driver.

I noticed last fall that I had a dryness issue with The Black Pearl's neck started shrinking some and I could feel fret edges. A nice room humidifier later the neck was fine and all is well.

In all, I got an amazing deal on a beautiful, beautiful transition ARC6 (from the original ARC6 body/control configuration of Pigtail bridge and 4 control knobs to the current 2-piece bridge and 2 control knobs). This guitar is one of two or three made with three knobs and the pigtail bridge.

It was worth every penny. But I thought I'd share this little insight into buying an expensive guitar from someone you don't know sight unseen. Little things that most people probably wouldn't see. But I'm an UBER Spector Geek (USG) so what did you expect.

I took this baby completely apart last night, cleaning, conditioned and polished it. I strung it with Spector regular (10s) guitar strings.

The guitar sounds amazing. I'm going to yank the Seymour Duncans out of it at some point and put in Harmonic Design stacked single-coil pups for a different sound.

It's a wicked sounding guitar. Here are some pics of it with my basses.





















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Old 07-19-2012, 04:03 PM
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Wow, he even shares his settings? this club rawks I love you Man
Take Care,
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HAHA! The settings is only 60% of the battle...the rest is in the fingers!
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:08 PM
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HAHA! The settings is only 60% of the battle...the rest is in the fingers!
So true!
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:09 PM
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HAHA! The settings is only 60% of the battle...the rest is in the fingers!
True. You have a pretty aggressive attack on the strings and that helps your tone for sure.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:10 PM
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It's like I told you earlier, Patrick... all I can see is The Black Pearl. Even when it isn't in the picture.

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Hey everyone! I was shocked to get the ARC6 I purchased from the Guitar Center in Seattle on Monday late yesterday afternoon. I figured at best it might be here today or tomorrow. So it was a good day yesterday. It was a new Spector day for me.

Some things to ponder... this is the first time I've ever bought an expensive guitar or bass sight unseen. And it's funny what I found.
  • This guitar has obviously been in storage. It's a NAMM Show 2010 Guitar. It doesn't have a mark on it. It looks as if it was never played. No sign that the finish has been touched by human hands.
  • It does show signs that at some point it was subject to excessive heat for a long period of time.
  • The glue under the frets got hot enough to melt and seep out from under the frets onto the neck and fingerboard in several places. Heat will cause the nature oils of the wood to seep out as the wood looses moisture. This reacts with the glue and the glue is pushed out of the wood.
  • And the finish... this is the real giveaway... these guitars are sanded smooth then gloss coated. So they should have a relatively even (smooth) gloss coat.

When you can look at the surface and there's ripples in the gloss clear coat where the wood has shrunk due to having the moisture pulled out of it (or in a lot of cases too much moisture in the air and the wood has swollen)... there's a good indication that the guitar in question has experienced excessive heat like being left in the trunk of your car for a month during the heat of the summer or being stored for two years in your garage or attic.
  • Different areas of the wood top shrink at a different rates.
  • More dense areas take longer to loose the moisture and because they are packed tighter with the cellular material of the tree wood, they "deflate" down less than the more porous areas which are less dense.

In short, you can look at this guitar from the front and it's amazing. Look at the top from an angle in the right light to catch the reflection and the clear coat is rippled (in a way that's consistent with the wavy pattern of the quilt). This type of rippling is usually consistent with the guitar being exposed to too much moisture or not enough.
  • Because this guitar came from Seattle, a notoriously damp area... I would have first bet this guitar was stored somewhere really humid.
  • But in it's case were several of the silica moisture traps. So... when I noticed the fret glue I knew immediately that heat was the culprit.
  • There's no visible shrinkage of the neck or fingerboard because being solid Rosewood (which is packed with natural oils and really hard to dehydrate which is why it's a great material for necks) it seemed to escape the effects that ravaged the more delicate Maple top.

The issues from the mistreatment of this guitar in it's past are nothing more than cosmetic at this point. The neck and body are slowly adjusting to the climate-controlled environment in my office. So pretty soon the moisture will be normalized and the wood will be healthy again. The ripples in the finish will never go away. But this doesn't really affect the tone or playability.

The neck was set with a very minimal amount of relief. The strings were a little high for my taste. And with the Pigtail bridge that's an easy adjustment. Just unscrew or screw in the side of the bridge that needs adjustment with the strings under tension using a large flat-head screw driver.

I noticed last fall that I had a dryness issue with The Black Pearl's neck started shrinking some and I could feel fret edges. A nice room humidifier later the neck was fine and all is well.

In all, I got an amazing deal on a beautiful, beautiful transition ARC6 (from the original ARC6 body/control configuration of Pigtail bridge and 4 control knobs to the current 2-piece bridge and 2 control knobs). This guitar is one of two or three made with three knobs and the pigtail bridge.

It was worth every penny. But I thought I'd share this little insight into buying an expensive guitar from someone you don't know sight unseen. Little things that most people probably wouldn't see. But I'm an UBER Spector Geek (USG) so what did you expect.

I took this baby completely apart last night, cleaning, conditioned and polished it. I strung it with Spector regular (10s) guitar strings.

The guitar sounds amazing. I'm going to yank the Seymour Duncans out of it at some point and put in Harmonic Design stacked single-coil pups for a different sound.

It's a wicked sounding guitar. Here are some pics of it with my basses.





















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Old 07-19-2012, 04:12 PM
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Patrick - nice ARC6!
Looks great with the Black Pearl & redwood NS-4 - enjoy!
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:18 PM
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So true!
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True. You have a pretty aggressive attack on the strings and that helps your tone for sure.
I've been trying to mellow it out a bit
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:22 PM
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Here's another track for you guys using a bassline I think we all know. One of these basses is my NS 2 (with ProSteels) and the other is the Forte (Cobalts). Which is which and which tone do you like better. I'll post the answer later tonight.

http://soundcloud.com/husky123/forte-ns-2-dry
The first clip is Cobalts, due to the increased volume and clarity. I need to get a set for my 4LX.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:31 PM
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Yeah, that's definitely the Euro Aluminum bridge on it in the pic. Would be interested to see it with the American.
He said its an olderpicture. I pulled it off his facebook page. He assures me that it has the all brass new American bridge on it now. The luthier had to widen the bridge area a couple mm but it was done professionally. I will get a new picture soon if anyone is interested
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:40 PM
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YES! Thanks Seventh. I think I know what I was doing "wrong." Too much amp low end. I say "wrong" cause you cant really go WRONG with a Spector.

Wow patrick she's a beauty. Sound clips of a all Spector instrument tune? And thanks for great write up!
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:41 PM
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Listen to the first 55 seconds of this: http://soundcloud.com/trailight/a-brief-instant

That's just something I came up with and used the Harmonist for.



A much comprehensive explanation here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZYt8PJDCZs
That's pretty cool, I generally find that Boss pedals are pretty digital/boring sounding, but that pedal seems pretty sweet....might have to get one
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:49 PM
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Hey everyone! I was shocked to get the ARC6 I purchased from the Guitar Center in Seattle on Monday late yesterday afternoon.
I'm surprised there would be that much "moisture movement" under what looks like 0.030 of sealer?
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:51 PM
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That's pretty cool, I generally find that Boss pedals are pretty digital/boring sounding, but that pedal seems pretty sweet....might have to get one
I think you're right. By themselves they may sound like that. I often use them in conjunction with the MXR pedals which often seem to warm the overall sound a bit. Maybe that's just me though :P
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:18 PM
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Here's another track for you guys using a bassline I think we all know. One of these basses is my NS 2 (with ProSteels) and the other is the Forte (Cobalts). Which is which and which tone do you like better. I'll post the answer later tonight.

http://soundcloud.com/husky123/forte-ns-2-dry
This is the only pedal missing from my want list. I have to figure out what to sell to pay for the amp I just got and to pick up a B3K.
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