SPECTOR® Club - Part 40 - Page 10

JeffplaysBass · #**181** 08-04-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by iceboxbass

Where is it at, in the shop?

Yeah,.....

brotherbassj · #**182** 08-04-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smadder

Okay, I can hear what Donny was saying about the 18v making the bottom tighter. But other than that, I can't tell. But again, I don't think I have the best ears. I'm far from being an audiophile, but I know what I like when I hear it... if that makes sense.

This is also why I decided to put the BQC system into this faux Forte 5 instead of the OBP-2. I want to force myself to start exploring midrange usage more instead of just always curving it out. My ears aren't going to get any bigger without work, and I think the BQC being so broad in terms of mid frequency selection that while it might prove to be frustrating at first, I need to learn more about how I can use mids to shape my tone more effectively instead of just using the amp's eq to notch stuff in or out to suit the room. I don't know if using a preamp as a learning tool is necessarily what springs to mind when I think about pre amps, but I feel like I'm lacking in knowledge in this part of creating my tone and this can be a great way to teach myself how to get comfortable with using mids to find the right place in the mix.

I think it's all in the ear of the beholder. I find the BQC to be aggressive in its attack. For me the comparison would be around what frequencies are boosted by different preamps. I am sure not all preamps center their bass control on say 50 hertz right? Each preamp is different.

As far as headroom goes, the way I understand that is the more headroom you have, the clearer or more pure your tone will be? Now that's in laymans terms. The best comparison I can give is my amp set up. Using the Bergantino nv215 with the Thunderfunk 550b sounds really good.....when you turn it up it does what it is supposed to but at a certain point doesn't Seem louder, just more full....that's with 550 watts......send 1250 watts from the carvin b1500 to the same cab and it seems to get louder and have more fundamental and dynamic.

Now I realize in this comparison I used louder as a term of choice. I think this is how we see power and headroom in general. I think I can get great tone with a variety of different preamps through my various rigs. Also don't discount your hands or your amp and speakers......my two cents

PhatBasstard · #**183** 08-04-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smadder

And with their x series line, their tech actually told me NOT to run at more than 9 because the internal preamp was so powerful, 18v would induce clipping very quickly. But regular series 18v is fine.

This could be very true as I'm not very acquainted with their X-series line.

smadder · #**184** 08-04-2012, 04:39 PM

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This could be very true as I'm not very acquainted with their X-series line.

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This could be very true as I'm not very acquainted with their X-series line.

If you ever get a chance to try them, they are pretty incredible. Very powerful, completely new internal preamp with higher/hotter output and a much broader frequency range. Their tech told me they were going for the best qualities of passive pickups such as what I mentioned above along with greater transparency and "hearing more of the wood." But it also still has that slightly compressed, tight EMG signature but it'll jump out of the bass and rough you up; very sensitive to preamp eq'ing no matter who the manufacturer is. A little goes a long way with these pickups. They're really great in Spectors (which is where I honestly think EMGs sound the absolute best above all other basses that use them natively). But I think most things are good in Spectors. Like pancakes. And beautiful women. And most definitely root beer.

And Phat, thanks again for taking the time to explain so much of the functionality and intent behind powering on-board pre-amps. I learned a lot and that's what I was hoping for.

seventhframe · #**185** 08-04-2012, 05:52 PM

Played around some more with the track I've been working on... the drum programming is VERY unconventional, basically some random snare kick and hi hat MP3's and I pasted them on the timeline...tediously I might add!!!

Still in it's infancy...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/72521656/Control-II.mp3

smadder · #**186** 08-04-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seventhframe

Played around some more with the track I've been working on... the drum programming is VERY unconventional, basically some random snare kick and hi hat MP3's and I pasted them on the timeline...tediously I might add!!!

Still in it's infancy...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/72521656/Control-II.mp3

Still killer tone, Omer.

brotherbassj · #**187** 08-04-2012, 11:26 PM

Much to my dismay, I find I am more comfortable on four strings, having said that I guess I will be posting two rebop fives I recently acquired. One is that red with upgraded EMG DCs and the BQC preamp, and the other is the natural with HZs and a non trim tone pump and the upgraded black euro bridge with intonation screws. If anyone is interested in either message me. I might consider trading both for a nice Spector four. The red is a 2001, while the natural is a 2003. I have a Spector hardshellL with the upgraded 2001.

**superdick2112** · #**188** 08-05-2012, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by brotherbassj

Much to my dismay, I find I am more comfortable on four strings, having said that I guess I will be posting two rebop fives I recently acquired...

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a 4-string guy. I played 5-ers for almost four years, and they never did feel quite right to me. I rarely need anything lower than a low D, so I keep my white Euro in drop-D for the one set we have in that tuning. A nice Spector 4 should be a very satisfying addition to your toolbox.

husky123 · #**189** 08-05-2012, 03:06 AM

4's 4 life!

worshiprocker · #**190** 08-05-2012, 03:18 AM

so after stealing some EQ ques from Rex, and using my CRFM I just got an amazingly cutting/gritty/nasty tone at band practice. In lue of the blowtorch pedal i cranked my TP to 60%... OMG perfection... almost eliminating my GAS for that pedal... almost. There is something special in this bass... my Rex 4 pro can't match it. This CRFM just growls.

Joe, I'm still loving this bass... you need to find me another one.. lol

We have been practicing at lower volumes for the past 2 weeks (no drummer and teaching a new guitarist the songs) so it was nice to just crank it up tonight...

Basstovsky · #**191** 08-05-2012, 08:45 AM

Anyone interested in Spector's starter model, the Performer, it is MF's stupid deal of the day today, 25% off.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupi...TP0G9&ZYXSEM=0

husky123 · #**192** 08-05-2012, 09:04 AM

Cool. Besides cranking the TP up some what was the EQ like on your GK? I crank up the high and low mids to get the growl I'm after. I generally run the bass flat or cut just a tad for more of a mid bump too.

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Originally Posted by worshiprocker

so after stealing some EQ ques from Rex, and using my CRFM I just got an amazingly cutting/gritty/nasty tone at band practice. In lue of the blowtorch pedal i cranked my TP to 60%... OMG perfection... almost eliminating my GAS for that pedal... almost. There is something special in this bass... my Rex 4 pro can't match it. This CRFM just growls.

Joe, I'm still loving this bass... you need to find me another one.. lol

We have been practicing at lower volumes for the past 2 weeks (no drummer and teaching a new guitarist the songs) so it was nice to just crank it up tonight...

jarrod cunningham · #**193** 08-05-2012, 09:28 AM

Hey all , I am looking to buy a ns2a really wanting black or white . Condition isn't a huge factor . Upgrades welcome . I will think about Other colors too .

sumgruuvz · #**194** 08-05-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by superdick2112

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a 4-string guy. I played 5-ers for almost four years, and they never did feel quite right to me. I rarely need anything lower than a low D, so I keep my white Euro in drop-D for the one set we have in that tuning. A nice Spector 4 should be a very satisfying addition to your toolbox.

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4's 4 life!

ditto. i used 5ers for several years and since i went to 4 banger's, that's what i really need. just so much more comfortable to play.

cjmodulus · #**195** 08-05-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sumgruuvz

ditto. i used 5ers for several years and since i went to 4 banger's, that's what i really need. just so much more comfortable to play.

Heheheh, more 5ers for me!

I started on a four, but spent most of my formative time on a 5. Whenever I play a 4 I keep reaching for some of those low notes up in higher positions or wanting to move parts I come up with down an octave. I guess it's just what I'm used to.

sumgruuvz · #**196** 08-05-2012, 10:29 AM

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Heheheh, more 5ers for me!

I started on a four, but spent most of my formative time on a 5. Whenever I play a 4 I keep reaching for some of those low notes up in higher positions or wanting to move parts I come up with down an octave. I guess it's just what I'm used to.

nice. it's all a matter of what you're most comfortable with. and that's all that counts. i was like that when i first went back to a 4. i was reaching for the b strings when it wasn't there. it took a few minutes but i got readjusted.

now i can easily switch between the 2, but prefer a 4 banger

now a 6 string to me is a disaster. that's too many strings for me.

Gabriel51 · #**197** 08-05-2012, 10:50 AM

Only 5's for me also, I used the b string on almost everything I play.
Plus I'm lazy, I don't have to dance all over the neck with a 5.
If I ever had to go back to a 4 (can't imagine), I would string it BEAD.

iceboxbass · #**198** 08-05-2012, 11:42 AM

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iceboxbass · #**199** 08-05-2012, 11:47 AM

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I just bought both of those CD's from iTunes. I haven't had the chance to listen to them yet though since I need to go pickup my new car but I definitely plan on listening to them later when I get home. I need to check out this songbooks too since Dan tabs them himself. At least I know they will be accurate

Alright! NCD! What did you get to transport your Spectors in?!

JeffplaysBass · #**200** 08-05-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Basstovsky

Anyone interested in Spector's starter model, the Performer, it is MF's stupid deal of the day today, 25% off.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupi...TP0G9&ZYXSEM=0

$279 without case?...what about $150 with hard case?...now thats STUPID crazy!!!!.....also through in brand new strings as my "customary" surprise. I beat Guitar Center doesn't offer a goodie basket like me, hehe

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f126/*...-case*-903451/