SPECTOR® Club - Part 49 - Page 20

sumgruuvz · #**381** 11-20-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by superdick2112

Amend that to read "a P/J Spector", and I agree. We play Maiden's "Wrathchild", and I use my plum CRFM for that song - the NS-4 sounds a bit too sterile & hi-fi for the Maiden. Gotta have that P-Bass pup somewhere in the equation!

hell yeah. i was trying to learn powerslave earlier, which is a killer song by the way, and it sounded so awesome. i jacked around with the eq on the gk and i got it singing and growling and spittin and pissin everywhere. i just had to jack with the eq for a while

but yeah, maiden plus spector is phenomenal.

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Originally Posted by loend68

Anybody looking for a Kramer NS-2, Grinning Elk music has a few nice examples:

http://www.grinningelk.com/products/basses

nice basses, crappy prices

Fat240 · #**382** 11-20-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by j.kernodle

they're not cheap at all but given the condition, and the fact that it's a retail store dealing in primarily high end gear (ie, they know what they have) it's not outrageous. that solid red is pretty damn rare too. you could pretend you're kip winger! you cant put a price on that.

I feel the same way, ofcourse finding one cheaper is always a plus and these are retail like kernodle mentioned not too bad considering I have had a chance to compare a couple kramers to a new one. Just like anything else, it's what the market is paying. The white ns2a on ebay just went for 610 and i've seen the go for up to 900. Not to long ago they were selling for 350 to 500. Some would rather have a 2a over a new euro, I would. Over time they will only increase in value.

JeffplaysBass · #**383** 11-20-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by loend68

Anybody looking for a Kramer NS-2, Grinning Elk music has a few nice examples:

http://www.grinningelk.com/products/basses

And they say when you refinish a bass it takes value...well these are in the same ball park...1 refinish, 1 natural.

JeffplaysBass · #**384** 11-20-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by superdick2112

Very nice, but at those prices, we're talking used or even new Woodstock basses. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of the appeal of the old Kramer-era basses was that they could be had in the low $2k range...

$2200-$2600

JeffplaysBass · #**385** 11-20-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by superdick2112

Dat true, but I like keep it simple & haul just 2 or maybe 3 basses to a gig. If I bring my 3 Spectors, it makes transitioning from bass to bass easier for both me and the soundman - no messing with the gain control on the amp or board to try & balance the output of a passive bass vs. an active bass.
I used to haul 6 or 7 basses to gigs, but the 'ol back ain't what it used to be, and I get 90% of the sounds I need from just my Spectors.
Still, the 4003 & Jazz basses come out to play occasionally....

+1....I like to go beyond just the passive /active...to same pre-amp. Once you touch the gain between basses it kills the sound guy..hehe

JeffplaysBass · #**386** 11-20-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by j.kernodle

they're not cheap at all but given the condition, and the fact that it's a retail store dealing in primarily high end gear (ie, they know what they have) it's not outrageous. that solid red is pretty damn rare too. you could pretend you're kip winger! you cant put a price on that.

So rare its a finish job.

Thats why you cant see the numbers behind the headstock and of course the "mint" of the color. The other one is original.

JeffplaysBass · #**387** 11-20-2012, 05:10 PM

On another note...has anyone shipped UPS in the week?...I have 3 packages out and they say the same thing. About the label being created but it never updates. One since last Thursday that should be delivered tomorrow.

**superdick2112** · #**388** 11-20-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bunkaroo

It seems the prevailing thought lately is the aged wood plus Kramer-era Haz makes for a somewhat different experience than the current Woodstock models. I'd have to judge that in person for myself but I don't doubt those who have been exposed to both models.

+1

One of these days I'm going to have to call both Sam and Jeff to discuss the pros & cons of exactly this point.

JeffplaysBass · #**389** 11-20-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by superdick2112

+1

One of these days I'm going to have to call both Sam and Jeff to discuss the pros & cons of exactly this point.

the Kramers have more bite!....both sound excellent but the Kramers have like a built in distortion/growl (very slight). In some basses I could add a little of the sansamp...but it isn't necessary with the Kramers,

brotherbassj · #**390** 11-20-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffplaysBass

+1....I like to go beyond just the passive /active...to same pre-amp. Once you touch the gain between basses it kills the sound guy..hehe

Yes!!!!!

JeffplaysBass · #**391** 11-20-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by loend68

Anybody looking for a Kramer NS-2, Grinning Elk music has a few nice examples:

http://www.grinningelk.com/products/basses

Now that I took a second look, haha....The refinished one is more money!!!....that eliminates the theory of not painting for the loss of value.

Clearwave · #**392** 11-20-2012, 05:44 PM

I know a guy that bid over $700 for that bass and didn't win it. It's a guy that really likes NS2a's. I think he's gonna save for a NS-2.

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Originally Posted by Fat240

I feel the same way, ofcourse finding one cheaper is always a plus and these are retail like kernodle mentioned not too bad considering I have had a chance to compare a couple kramers to a new one. Just like anything else, it's what the market is paying. The white ns2a on ebay just went for 610 and i've seen the go for up to 900. Not to long ago they were selling for 350 to 500. Some would rather have a 2a over a new euro, I would. Over time they will only increase in value.

Lorddaftplayer · #**393** 11-20-2012, 05:56 PM

Here's a cropped pic of my Ultra Amber Wimbish.

THE DANiMAL · #**394** 11-20-2012, 06:01 PM

Hey guys, if anyone is interested, I'm clearing out my pedals and MB200 to make room for new gear, I have a thread in the pedals classifieds with everything.

Fat240 · #**395** 11-20-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorddaftplayer

Here's a cropped pic of my Ultra Amber Wimbish.

Nice Wimbish, I would love to own a us wimbish one day.

j.kernodle · #**396** 11-20-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffplaysBass

So rare its a finish job.

Thats why you cant see the numbers behind the headstock and of course the "mint" of the color. The other one is original.

well damnit, no kip winger for me.

Tracebassplayer · #**397** 11-20-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorddaftplayer

Here's a cropped pic of my Ultra Amber Wimbish.

Welcome Lorddaftplayer!
You are Spector Owners Club Member 370!

chrisloe · #**398** 11-20-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by j.kernodle

well damnit, no kip winger for me.

Kip is a state of mind grasshopper, not a bass... I think he is a Spector artist now, just saw a picture of him in the artist section with ( I think) a new Woodstock NS-2.

beatdatthang · #**399** 11-20-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LimaGuy

Here is the general info on NS-2A's as per PJ.

Early 1987 models did not have any serial numbers

They started putting serial numbers on the control covers.

Serial numbers NS1xxx would be mid-late 1987

The production at the original Korean factory was from 1987 to 1989. They made around 2-3K per year.

Serial numbers NS8xxx would be 1989

So NS6xxx maybe 88ish.

In 1990 they temporarily switched factories, thus the Samick verison NS-2A's which have S ser# on the back of the headstock. (and less curve, bridge and knob placement)

FYI, NS-94/95, 2000, Q & Legend series are made at the original Korean factory that the 87-89 NS-2A's were made at.

My NS-2A's serial number is 1234... Thought that was pretty cool to have one with sequential numbering like that. I guess that means it's a late '87?

cableguy · #**400** 11-20-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by j.kernodle

well damnit, no kip winger for me.

I have to admit that scarred me for a while too. Not that Kip doesn't have way more talent than me, just the 80's videos still lingered in my head for years.

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But some Queensryche, AIC and Godsmack quickly slapped me back to my senses. Still loving my NS2A ever since.