SPECTOR® Club - Part 51

[worshiprocker]

Originally Posted by ebradfordrich

+1. That's a great record, as is Relient K's Let it Snow...Let it Reindeer.

Love me some Relient K... The first time I saw them was an awesome show. Relient K then Switchfoot then Third Day.... before relient K or Switchfoot were big, it was great

[chrisloe]

I love this brotherhood/sisterhood we have here. Honestly, even days I don't get a chance to post, I don't feel complete until I have read the posts and caught up.

I will never be able to repay all the kindness you have all showed me and I don't know why, but you all seem to just come through when things are the darkest and make me feel so much better.

I think it is awesome talking about other basses, comparing them is a healthy thing. I love hearing from people like Mad and everyone else, you may not have a Spector now, but even if you have had one or just interest in one, I think we have always been open and enjoy hearing eveyone's input.

I think the thing about the certain bass player we were talking about is that he had been an Spector artist for many years, then left and got paid for another company and started bad mouthing Spectors about their quality. Funny they were more than good enough until that other company started paying you. So go have them build you an imitation Spector and have them pay you to do it. Doesn't matter to me, but don't turn around and stab great people like Stuart and PJ in the back for being good to you for years.

Also, Kramer did some messed up things probably, but I don't think any of them were malicious or meaning to bring the Spector company down, I think it was just poor management. Don't forget Kramer was good for Spector also, how many of us know of Spector because of how big Kramer was and how many of their artists played Spectors.

Someone also said "Warwick didn't do anything illegal" maybe not, (If I have this wrong in some way, let me know, but I think I am close) but Stuart has a signed document from the guy who owns Warwick that is a settlement basically saying Warwick stole the design and he would pay Spector and Ned Steinberger royalties from the basses. He never did, when everything went down with Kramer, the Kramer guys just kind of forgot about it, so the Warwick guy did also. Maybe not illegal, but certainly not cool, not someone I would do business with.

Not starting anything, these are just things I remember that have been talked about lately, just wanted to point out a couple of things in case people didn't know.

I have no problem talking about other basses ever, I think it is healthy and usually brings me back to what I love about Spectors. I try different strings all the time, but always come back to my Rotosounds. Nothing wrong with all the other strings, they just feel like "home" like my new NS-2 does.

That new NS-2 is so awesome, I can not pick it up without playing it for like an hour. Yesterday my mom and sister got here, I showed it to them, Chantale wanted to hear it so I plugged it into my SVT and started playing a little something for them just for a minute so the could here it. Next thing I know, it's an hour later and Chantale is coming to get me to tell me dinner's ready, they walked out of the room in like 2 minutes, I didn't even really notice...

Solution for the 9 volt question?
I say we call it "The really awesome preamp designed by Stuart Spector that runs at 9 volts and is made in the United States of America by Haz Laboratories in New Jersey for use in the world's best electric basses, Spectors."

You're Welcome.

As far as the other stuff...
Check out about :45 in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kceqvqiyAEY

Love all of you guys, for real.

Big appt this afternoon, could be okay news or pretty bad news, kind of expecting bad...

[ebradfordrich]

Originally Posted by worshiprocker

Love me some Relient K... The first time I saw them was an awesome show. Relient K then Switchfoot then Third Day.... before relient K or Switchfoot were big, it was great

Nice. My boys are really into switchfoot as well. R/K has become something of a holiday tradition around here. I hauled this out when it was hot-as-balls last summer.

http://youtu.be/PA6QsHdXwdI

[j.kernodle]

hey chris, thanks for posting. prayers that news is good.

[ebradfordrich]

Originally Posted by j.kernodle

hey chris, thanks for posting. prayers that news is good.

^^THIS^^ +1,000

[smadder]

Originally Posted by brotherbassj

My stage rig consisted of 2400 watts on stage and the biggest venue I've played used 130,000 watts on front of house I think? You are right....nothing like hearing your bass behind you, your bass coming out of 4 18s next to you side stage......and many monitors on the front of stage. That's tonal bliss!

Jesus Jamie! That's earth shattering!!

[smadder]

That Hipshot is one hell of a design, I'll tell you that. Every custom bass I've ever known comes with the Hipshot A or B in brass (A or B depending on what approach I'm going for in the bass design. Congrats on your new Super-jazz - The Mighty Coda! Can't wait to hear further reviews especially about the volume and responsiveness in passive mode and the behavior of the tome pot in both active and passive-only models.

Originally Posted by iceboxbass

I'm really loving the Hipshot Type A chrome bridge on my Coda 5 DLX!

Now that I've had a chance to play and drool over every square inch of my new Coda 5 Deluxe for a week, I can't say enough great things about it! Now to mind you, the only bass rig I could borrow here in Columbus, OHio is a Peavey Max 158 bass system, so to keep from blowing the cone, I have to play the Coda mostly in passive mode. All though in active mode as long as I don't play off the B string I'm okay, but where's the fun in that with a 5r right? I am going to GC today to hookup to a Ampeg SVT stack. And look for a portable 12" combo at a great discount.
So...the Coda 5 with the Aguilar OBP 2 and Aggie JJ pups, has a very strong mids presence that can be dialed in crystal clear or dial in the growl. Highs are piano like with plenty of zing. I really can't give a good accountability on the lows at this time due to the bass rig being too small. I really love the flexibility of the active/passive switch! There's an incredible definition in either mode. In passive mode it's all the bass' wood tone and high mass bridge, pure and clean. In active mode it transforms into the growly high output raging Spector bass tone that we all have come to love! I've swapped the Spector strings out after a couple of days for a custom set of GHS Precision Stainless Steel Flatwounds Item
GHS_3025 GHS Precision Flats Flatwound Bass Strings - 4 String Set
Gauge:: 3025 - Long+ Light: .045 .065 .075 .095 - $2.00 $21.73 1 plus .126 B string

To my ears, these strings really opened up the tone in the Coda 5!
Extraordinary beautiful tones! The Coda 5 has an extraordinary smooth tone to it! Awesome for Jazz! The string action is so crazy low, neck really thin front to back, it's hard to believe that it's a 5 string! When fretting it feels more like a 4 string! So very smooth fretting action! It's very easy to reach the 21st fret on the E or B string thanks to a larger cut away at the bottom horn. I find myself playing more and more on the 20 & 21st fret on the E string because of the ease of reach.
Very fast to get around any where on the FB!

I HIGHLY recommend buying the Coda 5 Deluxe to anyone!!! Even though it doesn't have the scooped body, I find the Coda 5 very comfortable! It does have the half scooped carved top side like the Legends which makes it comfortable against your body.
If Stuart ever gives an option for a single split coil P pickup for the Coda it'll be in my arsenal for sure!

I'll give another report later after I come back from GC! And I'll work on a sound clip...I promise!

[Rick Blanc]

Originally Posted by superdick2112

My personal favorite X-Mas disc is the one from the Brian Setzer Orchestra. The man is one seriously underrated guitarist. Last time I saw the BSO play here in Denver, I was awed - the man has chops by the boatload!

No kidding. My wife and I and a couple friends go see him every year for his Christmas Extravaganza at Strathmore here in Md. As you say, his chops are freaking ridiculous, endless, effortless. The man can just flat out play.

[tomydacat]

I love BSO and have all his works.. and would love a SPECTOR up right.

[bassmanc]

[TK4261]

Beautiful Basses Bassmanc!!!!!

[Gabriel51]

[quote=chrisloe;13600005
I think the thing about the certain bass player we were talking about is that he had been an Spector artist for many years, then left and got paid for another company and started bad mouthing Spectors about their quality. Funny they were more than good enough until that other company started paying you. So go have them build you an imitation Spector and have them pay you to do it. Doesn't matter to me, but don't turn around and stab great people like Stuart and PJ in the back for being good to you for years.
.[/QUOTE]

I've owned a lot of Basses and several Spector's but I have never seen any thing to bitch about when it comes to quality.
Spector ranks right up there with the best and that includes the NS Korean made series. (I don't like two volume knobs but that's just me)

[Adam Wright]

Just picked up the orange metallic Coda from the TB classifieds.The build quality and tone is easily as nice as any of the other highly touted boutique jazzes. It's my first Spector, makes me think I need to check out more.

[tomydacat]

Welcome to the Family Adam

[JPSBassist]

Originally Posted by j.kernodle

To steve's point about discussing other bass brands, I think my off topic post about Wal stuff may have prompted some of this sentiment. I get that, but out also wanted to hear the opinion of Spector players who've owned both (and offered in the first post to take it to PM). If I post this question outside of this thread on the main board, it drops off the first page like a lead baloon. I think the topic stayed respectful and those that were involved seemed to get value out of the discussion.

I get the whole slippery slope point (what happens if all of us start these discussions and it becomes a free for all?) but I don't see that happening. Its a Spector club, and the unifying point is we all love Spector stuff.

I don't think we should take a hard line on this IMO. I'm trying to imagine the Golf course I'm a member of giving me an infraction because I discuss another golf course on the premises.

peace and love. peace and love.

I think this is very well stated.

And no... I don't think talking about other brands in comparison to Spector is out of bounds.

But I want to say this about it; I get asked often about the which is better, Spector or Warwick thing.

And the fair answer is NO answer. The only answer to a question like this is to tell the person asking to try both and make up their own mind.

From person to person, musician to musician, bassist to bassist, what is good, great, bad, etc... is so subjective. What one bassist thinks is the perfect tone might sound like poo to another.

So in subjective things like which circuit is better, which brand is better, etc... it's always best to be clear that you are only stating an opinion. THERE ARE NO FACTS... really when you think about it.

My take on all of this is there's NOTHING WRONG with talking about anything in the forum so long as the rules of Talkbass are obeyed. If what is being discussed is being done in the context of Spector then it's fair.

And that absolutely includes Warwick. I've always said there's NOTHING wrong with those basses, or anyone who owns them or plays them.

I've held and played a top-of-the-line German-Made custom-shop Warwick and it was an extremely well-made, beautiful bass. It had EMG pups and a circuit so it sounded very familiar.

In the context of how this bass sounds compared to a Spector, I think that's very fair.

This club is about sharing information, knowledge and love of the basses Stuart has made and makes now. That's where it needs to be.

[superdick2112]

Since joining this club, I've done my best to side-step any landmines, ignore any member-on-member arguments and/or disrespect, and not post when the occasional turd is hitting the fan.
That said, I believe Smadder is 100% correct - we should be able to civilly discuss any other brand of bass as compared to Spector. IMHO, it can be a bit stifling if we can't at least do that. After all, we all love & play Spectors because of what they do and don't offer as compared to every other brand we've ever played.
Back to out regularly scheduled program....

[loend68]

Browsing GC, I think a good price on an early Euro 4, blueburst. Comes with a case. Item #108477913

$749

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/index.cfm

[JPSBassist]

Originally Posted by Clearwave

I've been here over a year and I'm pretty sure the vast majority of members don't hold a grudge over someone owning and mentioning non Spector basses. I'm a fan of Spector basses but more than that, I'm a fan of the electric bass. I still like fender and others.

Totally. I like Status, Steinberger (the old ones), Wal and for fretless I love the tone of Pedulla's Pentabuzz.

Seriously, I dig headless basses. LOL. I'd love for Stuart to do a headless NS.

Originally Posted by Clearwave

The purpose of a business is to make money and Warwick has ran their business better than Spector over the last 30 years. I see 10 times as many Warwicks than Spectors on TV, magazines, music stores etc. I think Spector makes better moral decisions and as a customer I value that. And maybe over the next 30 years, that will cause them to pass Warwick on a business level.

This is a completely honest and logical point.

Although I'd argue that Warwick has embraced the same business model that Fender and Gibson pioneered and so yes, they've over-saturated the market with product, some good, some bad. And Spector has taken a more cautious, careful path. And a large part of that path has to do with moral and ethical choices.

And I agree, in the long run I'd like to believe Spector's business choices will provide a more stable future.

Originally Posted by Clearwave

What Kramer did to Spector was 100 worse than what Warwick did.

Different, but in a way, Kramer made Spector a much more visible bass... they brought in guys like Ian Hill and Mike Starr and Doug Wimbish and Garry Tallent. So in the long run, I think Kramer was a very important part of Spector's past that was positive.

[JPSBassist]

Originally Posted by brotherbassj

Here's a piece of wood for those that asked about afzelia.........

Very nice looking wood. How is the tone?
Especially compared to Maple?

[awilkie84]

This bass is available just over the water from me.
He's asking $600, and it's a neck-thru.
It has a paddle headstock, and a brass nut!
Any ideas?

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...369244266.html