SPECTOR® Club - Part 53 (A tribute to our Spector Brother and Friend Chris Loe)

[grendle]

Originally Posted by seventhframe

Insane day at the studio yesterday! It was incredible!
We had my good friend Ash (drummer for 3 Inches of Blood) lay some thunderous drum takes that sound incredible!
I did bass yesterday as well, my hands got sweaty from having 10 people watching me and a producer on my back But it was incredibly fun!






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sick!

[bunkaroo]

Originally Posted by grendle

no the trim pot. I run my vol wide open , full bass boost treb about 70% with rotos.

Their way hot with the trim pump near max from the factory usually. I turn the trim pot down to about 4 on mine, it's where my ampeg likes it other than that it easily distorts my pre more than i like. most guys like it between 4-6, it'll distort any pre if you crank it up / want to. The pump is a very under rated pre IMO.

18V is mandatory imo. also (thanks Phat!)

Ok that makes sense. Yeah when I first got the Euro 5LX and plugged it in, I was like "uh, this isn't real good". It was just way too hot. Trim pot cured all that. I'm running at 5 or 50%. I do have the 18v mods in as well (thanks again Fat420 - you got a CD coming for sure).

[bunkaroo]

Originally Posted by seventhframe

Insane day at the studio yesterday! It was incredible!
We had my good friend Ash (drummer for 3 Inches of Blood) lay some thunderous drum takes that sound incredible!
I did bass yesterday as well, my hands got sweaty from having 10 people watching me and a producer on my back But it was incredibly fun!






Back again next week!

Awesome! I've gotten used to doing things at a relaxed pace in my own home studio, but I forget sometimes how exhilarating it can be to be in a pro studio with other musicians. Sounds like a blast.

[Worldeeeter]

Originally Posted by seventhframe

Insane day at the studio yesterday! It was incredible!
We had my good friend Ash (drummer for 3 Inches of Blood) lay some thunderous drum takes that sound incredible!
I did bass yesterday as well, my hands got sweaty from having 10 people watching me and a producer on my back But it was incredibly fun!






Back again next week!

Kool!
However, three inches isn't a lot of blood, unless it a LOT of square footage... LOL!

Chile Mierda - Not a very appetizing dish...

[tomydacat]

Seventh LOOKING GOOD cant wait to hear WOOOOOOO....

[awilkie84]

Originally Posted by JPSBassist

They are offset because the addition of the intonation screws is a retro-fit.

They don't replace the original saddles, they just tap into them.

Does this lead to many height issues? My saddles on my ReBop have to sit fairly high, even to get my low low action.

[bassgiant15]

Originally Posted by seventhframe

Insane day at the studio yesterday! It was incredible!
We had my good friend Ash (drummer for 3 Inches of Blood) lay some thunderous drum takes that sound incredible!
I did bass yesterday as well, my hands got sweaty from having 10 people watching me and a producer on my back But it was incredibly fun!






Back again next week!

Awesome!!!!

[husky123]

Nice Omer. Can't wait to hear the tracks!

[worshiprocker]

great pics Omer!

[Exit1242]

Anybody try a brass nut on a rebop? If so how did it effect tone and tonality? I have had lots of basses but none with brass nut

[Fat240]

Originally Posted by Exit1242

Anybody try a brass nut on a rebop? If so how did it effect tone and tonality? I have had lots of basses but none with brass nut

I have one on mine, it added a little more sustain and woke up the open notes.

Omer, looks like a lot of fun can't wait to hear the finished product.

[iceboxbass]

Originally Posted by Exit1242

My next question can you get a brass nut for a rebop?

Yes you can...order it off the Spector retail store. I bought one a couple years ago for $25 and it was slotted already too.

[j.kernodle]

haven't specifically tried a brass nut on a rebop, but if you play a lot of open strings a good brass nut is a great thing. I've never done an AB test on the same bass with a brass and non brass nut, but the basses I own that have them have great sustain and lots of great harmonic overtones on open strings. of course the nut plays no tonal role at all as soon as you start fretting. .

get one!

[anton72]

Originally Posted by JPSBassist

Absolutely correct.

And in truth, PJ Rubal has more contact with the Czech shop than Stuart.

PJ has ramped up USA builds so much over the past two years, Stuart hardly has time to breathe.

PJ makes the day-to-day decisions on most things Euro. And being a truly phenomenal musician with a trained ear on par with Stuart's, Stuart trusts PJ to make certain decisions regarding things that most "business people" couldn't be trusted to make. It's just one of the reasons I have so much respect for these guys and I am proud to be a consultant for them.

The need to move the Euro away from solid wings to a sandwich was really both Stuart's and PJ's decision. Stuart had suggestions about the wing mix and PJ finally tested the various mixtures to help develop the current formula.

There were two reasons for the change;

• First, the maple was inconsistent and one instrument to the next varied greatly in density and this affected tone.
  
• The next reason was that as the 1990's faded away a lot of Spector Artists were approaching PJ about the "1980's" sound of both the USA and the Euro lines. PJ and Stuart felt that if they were going to look for a more stable mix of woods to provide a consistent tonal output, why not move away from the distinctive tonal range of all-maple builds and try to bring some more mids and lows to the mix, to provide a better overall tonal balance. This was a move towards the middle to make the Euro a more viable option for the bassist NOT interested in the traditional growly maple-driven tone of the NS-2, etc...

Remember, the goal of the Euro design is to provide the touring and studio bassist a sturdy, reliable bass that has the best possible tonal range to meet more of the required tones they may be faced with. This is why the Euro4LX-TW/Euro5LX/Euro6LX were moved to the TW coil-tapping pickups. To provide for more tonal variance. You have basically a J-bass with single coils and your humbucking driven bass in one.

I love what Ra Diaz told me in his "My Spector Story" interview: "I used to be the kind of bassist that would carry 2 and 3 basses around with me to get the tones I needed on stage... ...now I just have this one bass."

Here's the thought on this I've heard PJ talk about:

You want pure-classic-1980's Spector tone, the USA Neck-Thru models are the basses for you. The USA models haven't really changed much so you can still get that classic growly maple driven tone.

You want a working tool that meets several needs in one bass with the classic NS-Body and a proven professional /durable /tour ready bass; the Euro models were made for this.

I recorded the voice over tracks for the 2013 NAMM DVD with a professional actress this week. One of the changes to the script when describing the TonePump is that it was designed to sound like the USA 9v, but still have it's own unique voice.

It comes down to choice and what you really need.

Ecxellent overview, Patrick. On top to what's been said above - I still miss my Euro 435LX because it had the best and even response across the strings and I have to admit that, it also had much more low end than my Kramer NS-2s which I have now. And it was light! To be honest, If that time I knew what NS-2 are like in comparison I might keep my Euro....Excellent craftsmanship and a bass that is your main work horse. These sandwitch bodies marry TonePump perfectly.

[Exit1242]

Sweet thanks guys for the input I think I'm gonna get one and try it out :-)

[awilkie84]

Originally Posted by iceboxbass

Yes you can...order it off the Spector retail store. I bought one a couple years ago for $25 and it was slotted already too.

FFS! Now my order from Spector's going to consist of a TrimPump, a Euro5 bridge with Intonation screws AND a brass ReBop5 nut. -_-

Originally Posted by j.kernodle

haven't specifically tried a brass nut on a rebop, but if you play a lot of open strings a good brass nut is a great thing. I've never done an AB test on the same bass with a brass and non brass nut, but the basses I own that have them have great sustain and lots of great harmonic overtones on open strings. of course the nut plays no tonal role at all as soon as you start fretting. .

get one!

I have a brass nut on my NS-2000/5 and a stock one on my ReBop5. The NS-2000/5 definitely sounds better on the open notes. It also looks cooler!

[BrentSimons]

Originally Posted by seventhframe

Insane day at the studio yesterday! It was incredible!
We had my good friend Ash (drummer for 3 Inches of Blood) lay some thunderous drum takes that sound incredible!
I did bass yesterday as well, my hands got sweaty from having 10 people watching me and a producer on my back But it was incredibly fun!






Back again next week!

Great pics Omer. Good luck. I checked out your pedalboard demo video last night, very cool! I may need to steal those M80 settings though.
Take Care,
Brent

[seventhframe]

Thank you everyone!!!! I can't wait to get back there and record more!

One thing I forgot to mention...about the setup.

I was running a really old Mesa tube amp (400) for my clean channel that was hooked up to an Ampeg 410cl. Then another amp that I had my M-80 going through for my dirty channel, that was hooked up to an old Marshal 410 guitar amp.
SOUNDED SICK!!!! People were coming back from the cab room with smiles on their faces while I was getting levels
It was definitely loud and sounded great! I Can't wait for the final product!

[awilkie84]

Originally Posted by seventhframe

Thank you everyone!!!! I can't wait to get back there and record more!

One thing I forgot to mention...about the setup.

I was running a really old Mesa tube amp (400) for my clean channel that was hooked up to an Ampeg 410cl. Then another amp that I had my M-80 going through for my dirty channel, that was hooked up to an old Marshal 410 guitar amp.
SOUNDED SICK!!!! People were coming back from the cab room with smiles on their faces while I was getting levels
It was definitely loud and sounded great! I Can't wait for the final product!

Mind if I ask how you're doing your dirty/clean split? Are you just using an A/B/Y box to run to both signal chains from your bass?

[seventhframe]

Originally Posted by awilkie84

Mind if I ask how you're doing your dirty/clean split? Are you just using an A/B/Y box to run to both signal chains from your bass?

This particular setup went like this:

Bass---Radial JD7 Injector (splitter)---Mesa Head---Ampeg Cab (clean)
Bass---M80---Radial (splitter)----SWR head----Marshal cab (dirty)

Hope this makes sense