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Old 06-15-2010, 02:16 PM
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Stain finish durabilitiy?

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I saw some VERY nice basses posted here, and some, like Warwick and Ibanez to name a few, have a stained finish. I love those finishes, but I donīt know if they last enough, or if they chip easily. Did a search and didnīt found anything about it.

What do you think? Do they need a special care like waxing or something?

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Old 06-15-2010, 02:24 PM
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Stain by itself wears off. It needs a clear or tinted topcoat to protect it...than you're good.
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So what is the care needed on basses like this?





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IIRC, they have a tung oil finish on top of the stain, no?
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So what is the care needed on basses like this?

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Check the manufacturer's website and I'll bet they'll tell you. I can't help with them because I've never owned one of those.
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:42 PM
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First of all, thanks for the answers, you are quick indeed!

And nope, they donīt say anything about care on their websites, at least didnīt say anything I could find. Thought about sending them a message, but Iīd rather ask here.
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A lot of people use tung oil or a wax like finish on stained stuff for some protection. I havnt seen many stained bass where the stain has worn off though (at least not on anything that isnt really old or cheap).
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You should definitely look around on Warwick again. They have a lot about waxing and such.

EDIT: http://warwick.de/media/manuals/Bass...sManual_EN.pdf
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:00 PM
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From P. 16:
7) Tips for Body, Neck and Fingerboard Care
Tips for Body Care

Natural Oil Finish:
Here you can use the included beeswax. Apply the beeswax with a polishing cloth using circular movements. After applying, wait 2 to 3 minutes and then remove the excess with a dry polishing cloth.

Colored Oil Finish / Satin Finish:
A matte and transparent surface with visible wood structure and accentuated grain are the essential characteristic of the Colored Oil / Satin Finish. Here the surface is either
color stained (Colored Oil Finish) or the wood stays natural and sealed with a thin layer of clear satin matte lacquer (Satin Finish). This sealed and non-colored finish does not need special care. If the surface gets dirty it should be wiped with a damp cloth or with one of the many non-abrasive spray cleaners available in selected stores or specialist shops.

High Polish Finish:
A High Polish Finish is produced with the use of a high polish lacquer. The wood is completely sealed under the finish; the surface is as smooth as glass and without noticeable wood grain structure. As with Colored Oil Finish, care is limited to the
visual aspects. You can wipe the surface clean with a damp cloth or with the correspondingly suited spray cleaners, or you can use polish that reinstates the full shine of the finish and can also get rid of small scratches and typical traces of playing.

Tips for Neck Care
You can use our Warwick Beeswax for all necks treated with Natural Oil Finish. Apply the beeswax with a polishing cloth using circular movements. After applying wait 2 to 3 minutes and then remove the excess with a dry polishing cloth.
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Awesome! Thank you all!

I think the models Iīve seen might be from the second type you mentioned.

"Colored Oil Finish / Satin Finish:
A matte and transparent surface with visible wood structure and accentuated grain are the essential characteristic of the Colored Oil / Satin Finish. Here the surface is either
color stained (Colored Oil Finish) or the wood stays natural and sealed with a thin layer of clear satin matte lacquer (Satin Finish). This sealed and non-colored finish does not need special care. If the surface gets dirty it should be wiped with a damp cloth or with one of the many non-abrasive spray cleaners available in selected stores or specialist shops."

I didnīt want to get into this in about two months!
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Awesome! Thank you all!

I think the models Iīve seen might be from the second type you mentioned.

"Colored Oil Finish / Satin Finish:
A matte and transparent surface with visible wood structure and accentuated grain are the essential characteristic of the Colored Oil / Satin Finish. Here the surface is either
color stained (Colored Oil Finish) or the wood stays natural and sealed with a thin layer of clear satin matte lacquer (Satin Finish). This sealed and non-colored finish does not need special care. If the surface gets dirty it should be wiped with a damp cloth or with one of the many non-abrasive spray cleaners available in selected stores or specialist shops."

I didnīt want to get into this in about two months!
That picture just shows negligence. Notice the way the top coat appears to be chunky and not a smooth wear? Those are signs of the finish being scraped away, either by dropping, notching with a zipper in a gig bag, or a plethora of other reasons.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:55 PM
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I read on the links you provided me. Thank you all!!!
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