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Old 06-15-2011, 06:59 PM
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Recently acquired an 87 ray, 2 band. Even with the bass onboard eq boosted, its still lacking in some lows and especially the low mids department. Lots of high mids for cutting through and of course the clicky highs. I kinda wished it sounds abit darker yet punchy. Current its strung w a set of brandless nickels....

My jazz bass w audere + model Js getting more play time.

Im seriously considering trading it for a spector dlx4 fm
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:25 PM
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Stingrays, IMO, are a very trebly, clanky bass. Have you tried EQ at your outboard preamp? I've found that a little more effective than the onboard pre.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:26 PM
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To each his own, but I would get some decent strings on it before I would make any determination about it. What kind of amp are you playing it through? You may need to adjust the EQ on the amp...
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:29 PM
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Mine's a 2006 so it's a 3-band and set flat I think it can sound a little thin by itself. But it only takes a little boost of the bass to get it sounding noticeably deeper.

FWIW, I usually keep the bass on my amps set flat and boost the low mids (all my amps/combos are GK, so they have 4-band EQ) a little.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:32 PM
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I have a 62 RI Fender jazz with an Audere and it is superb.. nothing i cant dial in with it.. everything is right there, and i love the Audere 3 band......For me Stringrays are not as versatile
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:33 PM
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yeah, you can't take the sharpness out for anything. Seems that everyone has this problem when they buy it, they're surprised.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:36 PM
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You must cut the treble back to get rid of the clicky top. Think of the bass and treble as boost/cut even though they're not. Find the center position of each, then cut the treble 1/4 turn and boost the bass 1/4 turn. If that doesn't get you a huge bottom with muted highs there is something else wrong.
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It's just not true that the Stingray is not versatile. Strings, technique and your amp and speaker combination will all contribute to the sound. Look at these before you give up on the instrument. Once tamed, that glorious cutting tone is unforgetable.
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im mean compared to a Jazz, and on its own without the amp eq... but yeah that tone is killer...
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If all else fails, flats really do wonders on a Stingray.

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Think of the bass and treble as boost/cut even though they're not..
Are the older models not boost/cut? I've got a 99' that is...

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It's just not true that the Stingray is not versatile. Strings, technique and your amp and speaker combination will all contribute to the sound. Look at these before you give up on the instrument. Once tamed, that glorious cutting tone is unforgetable.
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Recently acquired an 87 ray, 2 band. Even with the bass onboard eq boosted, its still lacking in some lows and especially the low mids department. Lots of high mids for cutting through and of course the clicky highs. I kinda wished it sounds abit darker yet punchy. Current its strung w a set of brandless nickels....

My jazz bass w audere + model Js getting more play time.

Im seriously considering trading it for a spector dlx4 fm
Turn your knobs that is why they are there .... Adjust your pickup height ....
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Recently acquired an 87 ray, 2 band. Even with the bass onboard eq boosted, its still lacking in some lows and especially the low mids department. Lots of high mids for cutting through and of course the clicky highs. I kinda wished it sounds abit darker yet punchy. Current its strung w a set of brandless nickels....

My jazz bass w audere + model Js getting more play time.

Im seriously considering trading it for a spector dlx4 fm
They sit GREAT in the mix. What does you band think?
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Are the older models not boost/cut? I've got a 99' that is...
The 2-band preamp does not have center detents. Rumour has it the treble is boost/cut and the bass is boost only, but nobody seems to know for sure.
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The 2-band preamp does not have center detents. Rumour has it the treble is boost/cut and the bass is boost only, but nobody seems to know for sure.
A quick email to the folks at Ernie Ball ought to be able to clear that one up.
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The Rays do sound great with flats; I used the Stage IIIs for awhile before going back to the stock EBs once I learned how to tame the high end. Rays are sometimes deceptive in that they sound much better in a band context, live, than they do by themselves. Roll the treble off a tad and play north of the pickup for that big thump.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:11 PM
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Stingrays, IMO, are a very trebly, clanky bass.
With respect, this is a popular misconception...but then again I had a '99 and it was pretty bright.

I used my '77 at a large festival recently....with the treble wound right back and bass control at just under half, it sounded twice as fat as my Jazz, with zero clank. And I could coax all the tones i needed by changing my right hand position.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:18 PM
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I play a MMRAY with a MBII and Avatar neo 410. PLENTY of lows. I cut back the treble on the amp and run bass flat and adjust the tone on the bass and get varied sound. As a matter of fact I have had to back off the lows on the bass as it can be boomy. It has taken me some time to get used to the ray as I have always played fender Pbass. Now I love the sound I get. I also found the strings can make a huge difference.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:54 PM
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Rays are sometimes deceptive in that they sound much better in a band context, live, than they do by themselves. Roll the treble off a tad and play north of the pickup for that big thump.

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Stingrays IMHO do not sound great in the bedroom. They shine in the mix. The "clank" and the mid-rangeyness helps you cut through and allows you to be heard, without being boomy. You don't get the deep fundamentals you get with a P-Bass, but you do get a nice foundation that cuts through.

Play around in your house/practice room, but at a gig is where you will really see what you like and what you don't.
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Recently acquired an 87 ray, 2 band.
Nice year.
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its still lacking in some lows and especially the low mids department. Lots of high mids for cutting through and of course the clicky highs.
You just described the signature sound of the stingray.
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