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Veldar 01-27-2013 10:04 PM

That's it were no longer needed, bass players are done.*
 
*bit of an exaggeration



See this Ibanez the company who brought us the 7 and 8 string guitars has decided to kill us off one and for all.*

but seriously from low to high C# F# B E A D G B E that's lower than a normal bass, but as bassists we can't tune more than an octave down other wise it starts to get unaudible to the human ear.

Dam Djent kids and there down tuned music.:mad:

Mykk 01-27-2013 10:13 PM

Well, I suppose they wouldn't build it if there wasn't a market for it. I don't see it "replacing" or making bass players extinct. I just wonder what kind of guitar amp could handle the range and still sound good at both ends of the spectrum.

TheEmptyCell 01-27-2013 10:14 PM

Ibanez didn't bring the world the first 7 or 8 string... Not even be first 9
or 10 string guitars.

Don't cry about it on the Internet just because you don't like it.

Beano_z 01-27-2013 10:14 PM

How do you do full barre chords on that thing?!

bassfart 01-27-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykk (Post 13788430)
Well, I suppose they wouldn't build it if there wasn't a market for it. I don't see it "replacing" or making bass players extinct. I just wonder what kind of guitar amp could handle the range and still sound good at both ends of the spectrum.

Fractal processors and powered speakers, that's what.

Stick_Player 01-27-2013 10:16 PM

http://www.9stringbass.com/

Bill Dickens

Veldar 01-27-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEmptyCell (Post 13788436)
Ibanez didn't bring the world the first 7 or 8 string... Not even be first 9
or 10 string guitars.

Don't cry about it on the Internet just because you don't like it.

I wasn't beaning serious. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassfart (Post 13788446)
Fractal processors and powered speakers, that's what.

and black knuckle pickups.

2cooltoolz 01-27-2013 10:22 PM

and then there is this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGoodall (Post 13777336)
So I ordered this bass over a year ago, sometime in November of 2011, and it finally came in last monday. I'm a little late, but I didn't want to start the thread 'till I had some good pics.
I will say this. Chris Stambaugh (Stambaugh Designs) is a madman. I'm not sure if there's anything he won't build. From 8-string acoustics, to 11 string basses, he just won't say no. If there's a problem, he works through it. And his prices are ridiculously low. Take your best guess for what an instrument like this should cost, and divide it by at least two. He even surprised me with a few extra things on here I didn't even ask for.
Specs:
11 strings tuned C#0-F#0-B0-E1-A1-D2-G2-C3-F3-Bb3-Eb4
37-32.5" scale with 9/10 fret parallel
Neck through
Maple, Bubinga, Walnut and Figured Mahogany neck woods
Morado fingerboard with flame-maple binding
Morado pickup covers
28 frets
zero fret with graphite bridge
MOP inlay at 27/28th fret
Mahogany body wings
Custom body shape, slightly chambered
Claro Walnut top, back and headstock cap
2 Aero custom split coil pickups
1 aero single coil pickup, covers D2-Eb4 strings
Aguilar OBP-3 preamp
GHOST piezo system with Bartolini piezo buffer
Dual outputs:
Piezo/split coil pickups with Aguilar preamp
Aero single coil pickup with tone and volume control
Hipshot ultralite tuners on C#0-E1 strings
Sperzel tuner on A1 string
Sperzel locking tuners on D2-Eb4 strings
Dunlop recessed straplocks

Pics:












The bass plays beautifully and has amazing sustain!
The controls are:
master volume
neck/bridge pickup blend
treble cut/boost
mid cut/boost
bass cut/boost
mid frequency selector
"guitar" output tone
"guitar" volume
piezo/magnetic blend

It weighs about twenty or so pounds, but it's really not that bad if I'm actually playing and not just standing there holding it. The long scale took no getting used to, and I don't even notice the fanned frets. It just feels natural. Though the neck is monstrously wide, It's not that hard for me to get around on.


Epitaph04 01-27-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beano_z (Post 13788438)
How do you do full barre chords on that thing?!

Forearm.

two fingers 01-27-2013 10:23 PM

I don't see it out selling a P bass any time soon. That thing is fun to point at though.

two fingers 01-27-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cooltoolz (Post 13788463)
and then there is this...

Holy crap. The only way I could play that thing is with mutes and mallets, or maybe like a peenanner!

Veldar 01-27-2013 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cooltoolz (Post 13788463)
and then there is this...

:eek: So um, uh ?....... how much?

toddoutloud 01-27-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beano_z (Post 13788438)
How do you do full barre chords on that thing?!

They tune down the top string a whole step and play with one finger. Kids these days.....(facepalm)......

JamesGoodall 01-27-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veldar (Post 13788404)
Dam Djent kids and there down tuned music.:mad:

HEY! I resent that! ;)

I love how everybody acts like this is the end of all music... But you hit a good note with that djent comment: this bass EDIT: guitar is made for a specific market of people who accept the outrageous and new. The metal scene where I'm from uses 6-8 string guitars depending, and thus far (two weeks in) I have only received one "record a video of you playing a song that uses every string!" comment in regards to my 11 string bass.

Not to bash on those content with how things are, etc. but we aren't asking that you take this to your next country or classic rock gig at the bar this Saturday. Hell, we aren't even asking for you to touch it!

When you play rock, you'll probably have an SG or Les Paul and a J-bass. In country, you'll have some sort of strat, tele, or semi-acoustic and a p-bass. In Djent, you have 7-9 string guitars and a bassist who's willing to try to play along with whatever hes got, and a general mindset of "lower is heavier, and more strings is more metal" Not that I agree with this idea necessarily, but it's honestly what I've gotten from past members.
Quote:

This would sound so much heavier if we tuned to drop-F instead of drop-G!
Just my 2 cents... /rant

SBsoundguy 01-27-2013 10:33 PM

That Stambaugh looks like a raft.

JamesGoodall 01-27-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddoutloud (Post 13788488)
They tune down the top string a whole step and play with one finger. Kids these days.....(facepalm)......

I challenge you. Try playing any technical metal, "djent", deathcore, etc. fingerstyle "with one finger." Please.

Once you do that for a 30 minute set complete with adequate stage presence in a room potentially hotter than it is outside in Texas during the month of June or July, or better yet, outside at 4 pm with no sunshield of any sort, come back and tell me how that worked for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBsoundguy (Post 13788500)
That Stambaugh looks like a raft.

Actually, it's my new surfboard ;)

Veldar 01-27-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGoodall (Post 13788496)
HEY! I resent that! ;)

I love how everybody acts like this is the end of all music... But you hit a good note with that djent comment: this bass is made for a specific market of people who accept the outrageous and new. The metal scene where I'm from uses 6-8 string guitars depending, and thus far (two weeks in) I have only received one "record a video of you playing a song that uses every string!" comment in regards to my 11 string bass.

Not to bash on those content with how things are, etc. but we aren't asking that you take this to your next country or classic rock gig at the bar this Saturday. Hell, we aren't even asking for you to touch it!

When you play rock, you'll probably have an SG or Les Paul and a J-bass. In country, you'll have some sort of strat, tele, or semi-acoustic and a p-bass. In Djent, you have 7-9 string guitars and a bassist who's willing to try to play along with whatever hes got, and a general mindset of "lower is heavier, and more strings is more metal" Not that I agree with this idea necessarily, but it's honestly what I've gotten from past members.

Just my 2 cents... /rant

Sorry to offend but, this thread was a joke really and I just wanted to show people the ibanez RG9, I've been listening to some 'Djent' for the last month or so and most of the local scean is starting to mash it with their really slow metalcore, I like most of it chimp spanner, animals as leaders etc.

And I'm jealous I wish I had a 11 string bass, and do a video of marry had a little lamb but change which string your playing the note on that'll show the haters.

TolerancEJ 01-27-2013 10:40 PM

Exceedingly dramatic thread introduction. (Ok, I went back then noticed "bit of an exaggeration".)

The C# in the Ibanez 9-string guitar is an octave higher than Jauqo III-X's. Don't shed a tear, bass still has the lowest ranges covered.

JamesGoodall 01-27-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veldar (Post 13788518)
Sorry to offend but, this thread was a joke really and I just wanted to show people the ibanez RG9, I've been listening to some 'Djent' for the last month or so and most of the local scean is starting to mash it with their really slow metalcore, I like most of it chimp spanner, animals as leaders etc.

And I'm jealous I wish I had a 11 string bass, and do a video of marry had a little lamb but change which string your playing the note on that'll show the haters.

Oh no, not offended! I was saying you hit the nail on the head that this is for a specific market and its silly for one to get their jimmies rustled over a product that does not concern them :)

My last band sounds the same way as your scene. We used to be really generic crappy metal stuffz, then we rewrote everything and blended in that bouncy "djenty" style, along with fast minor-third scales that always made me cry...

And that's what I'm planning on doing...something ridiculously simple to show the petty nature of his demand. :smug:

toddoutloud 01-27-2013 11:11 PM

I don't really care to play "Djent" music- sounds like "noise" to me. Although if I put my classical training to use on a 7-8 string guitar, and gave about a month or so of dedicated practice 3-4 hours a day, I could do it. However, I don't give 2 poops about that stuff. I play bass- real bass.

I'm used to playing outdoors at the many clubs on Pensacola Beach in 100+ degree humid heat, 4-5 days a week from March-September and being drenched in sweat before I even take the stage for a 4-set gig. I've been doing it for years. I grew up in New Orleans; I do sticky heat very well.

But this isn't a pissing contest, I do what I do well and guys who want to play their 37-string whatevers can do what they want to their heart's content. I just don't dig it.


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