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01-21-2012, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TBird1958 I'd be surprised if the pup routs were any different that the stock ones Andy, a pic with the pup out would be helpful tho! | All I want to know is how much gibson stock pickups would go for. Even if I got used to the sound that the stock epi pups in my bird, i'd like to have gibson pups. Black ones, the post 88' stuff. | 
01-21-2012, 07:04 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bethel CT | | | Can we put a list of replacement parts for TBirds together ?
Pick-ups, Bridges and Tuners ? Seems like a lot of us want to upgrade our black hardware to chrome.
I know Hipshot and Allparts have bridges
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01-21-2012, 07:49 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Jaydee Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nashville, TN | | | Those little black no name tuners that come on the Epi's match for Schallers...Hipshots fit too... | 
01-21-2012, 09:42 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chandler, Arizona | | | I installed a set of Gotoh tuners on my Epi Goth and only had to do slight sanding to the headstock for them to slide in the holes. It just took a second to use the Dremel on each hole and then the sleeve slid right in.
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01-21-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamR Can we put a list of replacement parts for TBirds together ?
Pick-ups, Bridges and Tuners ? Seems like a lot of us want to upgrade our black hardware to chrome.
I know Hipshot and Allparts have bridges | actually, i think i'm the only one who doesn't want chrome hardware right now. All i want is black gibson post 88' pickups.
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01-21-2012, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamR Can we put a list of replacement parts for TBirds together ?
Pick-ups, Bridges and Tuners ? Seems like a lot of us want to upgrade our black hardware to chrome.
I know Hipshot and Allparts have bridges |
This is a really good idea!
It'll take a couple days but I'll start something, post it and have everybody add to it so it's as complete as we can make it. | 
01-21-2012, 12:58 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bethel CT | | | I figured everyone keeps asking and it would be easier then trying to search the forums.
Kinda like a complete guide to modifying your T-Bird. Maybe add some pictures at some point.
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01-21-2012, 01:12 PM
| | | | Any news from the NAMM about a new thunderbird ?
There were big rumors about this... | 
01-21-2012, 02:43 PM
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01-21-2012, 02:50 PM
|  | As a matter of fact....I am your Queen! Endorsing Artist Mike Lull T Bass pickups | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle Washington | | Quote:
Originally Posted by damdam Any news from the NAMM about a new thunderbird ?
There were big rumors about this... | Still a rumor that Gibson will do a re-issue of the Non - Reverse, but since they've released so many others, let's hope so!
Mike Lull is doing a Jeff Ament sig too.  | 
01-21-2012, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TBird1958 This is a really good idea!
It'll take a couple days but I'll start something, post it and have everybody add to it so it's as complete as we can make it. | Might be a good idea for a "sticky" message when you add new members, along with a message about where the strap buttons can be relocated as well. 
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01-21-2012, 08:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal | | | Out of all the birds I've tried/had in my life, none balanced better than my dad's old blackbird. Why? is it the way nikki sixx designed the bass? Tbird1958, how did your Nikki sixx bass (second signature model) balance with all stock? Has it changed with the mods? And does it balance better than your other birds? | 
01-21-2012, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Andii Syckz Out of all the birds I've tried/had in my life, none balanced better than my dad's old blackbird. Why? is it the way nikki sixx designed the bass? Tbird1958, how did your Nikki sixx bass (second signature model) balance with all stock? Has it changed with the mods? And does it balance better than your other birds? | Not sure if it was stock or not, but my Blackbird came with the strap buttons in those "off center" positions- and there is no evidence of old holes being filled. It balanced so well I modded my other Birds the same way.
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01-22-2012, 06:04 AM
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01-22-2012, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stiles72 Not sure if it was stock or not, but my Blackbird came with the strap buttons in those "off center" positions- and there is no evidence of old holes being filled. It balanced so well I modded my other Birds the same way. | Yeah, the off center positions are the stock positions on the blackbird. Wish my dad hadnt sold it. He would've given it to me for sure. I'm a huge nikki sixx fan and it's a major reason why i bought my gothic bird. Maybe I should've waited for an epiphone blackbird to appear, oh well.
Also, could you measure the distance between the centre at the bottom of the blackbird to the strap pin and the distance for the top one for the centre too. I'm thinking of converting my goth bird from bolt-on to set neck, and also upgrading hardware (hipshot ultralite tuners 3/8, opti-grab, dunlop dual design straplok) and make it look like a cross between my style and nikki sixx.
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Reason: radical plans for my T-bird !!
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01-22-2012, 08:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico | | | Any indication if a Gibson NR reissue would cost the same as a T Bird? Did they back in the 60s? Am I to assume a set neck?
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01-22-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Andii Syckz Out of all the birds I've tried/had in my life, none balanced better than my dad's old blackbird. Why? is it the way nikki sixx designed the bass? Tbird1958, how did your Nikki sixx bass (second signature model) balance with all stock? Has it changed with the mods? And does it balance better than your other birds? | I played this bass and my 8 string at rehearsal last night, it's always balanced effortlessly regardless of modifications, the strap pins are in the stock positions - centered in the end and the middle of the heel. Balance is an open question tho, as Clint (Stiles72) has shown, a players individual preference on strap length is likely going to change how the bass balances. He wears his basses a bit lower and favors a different right hand position than I do - I keep the strap a bit shorter and seem to have a bit of my lower rigt forearm on the upper bout while playing pickstyle. The Nikki Sixx Mk.II is no different than any other post '88 'Bird in terms of balance, tonewise, that's another story  | 
01-22-2012, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TBird1958 I played this bass and my 8 string at rehearsal last night, it's always balanced effortlessly regardless of modifications, the strap pins are in the stock positions - centered in the end and the middle of the heel. Balance is an open question tho, as Clint (Stiles72) has shown, a players individual preference on strap length is likely going to change how the bass balances. He wears his basses a bit lower and favors a different right hand position than I do - I keep the strap a bit shorter and seem to have a bit of my lower rigt forearm on the upper bout while playing pickstyle. The Nikki Sixx Mk.II is no different than any other post '88 'Bird in terms of balance, tonewise, that's another story  | Thx, i play my basses very low (just a bit past my knees) and i have a very thin strap (~1.5 inches width). i just wanted to know if the mods would bring a slight difference in weight compared to stock. guess not. Thx for the info tbird | 
01-22-2012, 10:12 AM
|  | As a matter of fact....I am your Queen! Endorsing Artist Mike Lull T Bass pickups | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle Washington | | Shameless self promo..........Me at work. You can see the bass is at or slightly above my waist and my right arm is on the body, balance isn't an issue even with a '76 and it's glorious gigantic headstock and heavy old tuners.  | 
01-22-2012, 12:11 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Orleans LA | | | Question for you guys since I am so new to the Thunderbird Club. As some of you know, I just got a Mike Lull T4 and am loving it so far! I usually just keep my hard cases in the closet and use Mono gigbags for rehearsal and even some gigs. The case for the T4 is a little large for my tastes and it actually is pretty tight in the back seat of my Accord. Are there any quality gigbags or soft cases you guys are using or have seen for T's? I would imagine the Lull and it's smaller headstock would help. I tried my Mono, but it was an awkard fit and I don't want to force anything.
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