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smoothdave 12-14-2012 03:56 PM

A violin bass sound w/out a violin bass?
 
Last night my keyboard player brought his Hofner violin bass to practice, and I had the opportunity to play it for the evening.

Here's the problem. I hate everything about this bass, except for one, little, itsy, bitsy detail.

I hate the way it looks.
I hate the way it feels.
I hate the short neck.
I hate the way it plays.
:hiding:

But.....

I love the way it sounds. These things really, really sound awesome to me. :hyper:

So, does anyone have any suggestions for getting on of my current P or Jazz style basses to sound like a violin bass? New pickups maybe? Different strings? Or is there something else I can buy that doesn't look, feel, or play like a violin bass?

Or does it just have to be a violin bass?

Thank you for any suggestions.

RED J 12-14-2012 04:13 PM

I think you're going to find these are a unique beast, the sound made up largely of the things you hate.

Maybe a Club bass or an Allen Woody ? Pretty close.

mjac28 12-14-2012 04:20 PM

You may enjoy this it's still 30" scale though http://altomusic.com/shop/Hofner-HCT...-_pid112546.am

Ibanez Bassist 12-14-2012 04:57 PM

It took some getting used to but I have grown attached to mine and since putting on the LaBella's that has made it all worth it.. You cant really man handle it and play it like an animal but it certainly has its place..

Orangeclawhamme 12-14-2012 05:34 PM

I had an Epiphone Viola for about a year. The sound was fine. The neck dive was not. Neither was the fact that the back of the bass is round. Unless the player is a body builder with 6 pack abs, you know what else is round. So there is neck dive and the tendancy of the bass to roll forwards so it faces the floor.

bill reed 12-14-2012 06:11 PM

I have 5 basses that all sound diffrent.
the only one that gives me that Viola sound is my
LE. MARQUIS fitted with roto tru-bass 88s.
i would think the only bass other than a Viola would be the
Line 6 Variax Bass 700. it has a Hofner 1968 500/1 with flats in its set up.
Maybe Mjac28 could help you more as i think he has a Variax,

smoothdave 12-17-2012 08:13 AM

Thank you very much for all of your replies. Why is it that the answer is always "more basses?" :)

I've never played any of the suggested basses, so I'll have to check those out. I appreciate it.

Ric5 12-17-2012 08:20 AM

Try an Epiphone EB3 or an Epiphone Les Paul or an Epiphone T-bird they will get a similar tone to the Hofner ... or Try a Rick and favor the neck pickup.

Stick_Player 12-17-2012 08:24 AM

W-FabBass





Funny, the three songs they chose to demo this with were originally done by McCartney using a Rickenbacker. :D

3234718 12-17-2012 08:27 AM

The Epi Allen Woody is very Hofner-ish but with a fatter neck. My friends Hofner Icon and my Allen Woody both strung with Labella flats sounded pretty much the same.

Bassamatic 12-17-2012 08:31 AM

Get a Hofner Club Bass - same sound, cool looking single cutaway design. At least solves the appearance issue.

jellejanssen 12-17-2012 08:41 AM

You could try to mute the notes a little bit

ggvicviper 12-17-2012 08:44 AM

How about an Eastwood Classic 4? It doesn't look or feel (and therefore play) like a Violin Bass. However, it's 30" scale - but 3 outta 4 ain't bad.

Ed Freidland plays one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSUjhcJaPo

t77mackie 12-17-2012 09:11 AM

I agree with the OP about everything s/he said about the Beatle Bass. When I tried one out at the store it felt like the most alien thing I ever picked up. It feels like a toy!

Mimicking tone - maybe mess around with your tone knob and EQ. Tone knob all the way off and lots of low EQ. But, yeah, you'll never match the tone without one.

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Why is my dictionary saying, "Beatle" is spelled wrong? Am I missing something???

:eyebrow:

T-Bird 12-17-2012 10:42 AM

Hi.

Höfner 182 might fit the bill.

Short scale though, obviously.

Or staple PU's on a J or P. With flats, of course.

Regards
Sam

Brent Hahn 12-17-2012 11:16 AM

I really like the Epi Jack Casady. Can sound pretty Hofnerish, but bigger, longer, and all around more substantial. Around $700 new.

Mastermold 12-17-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Hahn (Post 13590071)
I really like the Epi Jack Casady. Can sound pretty Hofnerish, but bigger, longer, and all around more substantial. Around $700 new.

+1 especially since the OP says he doesn't like short scales.

rust_preacher 12-17-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellejanssen (Post 13589331)
You could try to mute the notes a little bit

I second that. Some foam at the bridge.

mjac28 12-17-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77mackie (Post 13589454)
I agree with the OP about everything s/he said about the Beatle Bass. When I tried one out at the store it felt like the most alien thing I ever picked up. It feels like a toy!

Mimicking tone - maybe mess around with your tone knob and EQ. Tone knob all the way off and lots of low EQ. But, yeah, you'll never match the tone without one.

===-===--====-

Why is my dictionary saying, "Beatle" is spelled wrong? Am I missing something???

:eyebrow:

try" Beatles" they were known as The Beatles and for some reason the dictionary doesn't like the word Beatle

mjac28 12-17-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stick_Player (Post 13589260)
W-FabBass





Funny, the three songs they chose to demo this with were originally done by McCartney using a Rickenbacker. :D

This is pretty cool never heard of it.


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